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Print Page Chess Computer Community
    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: tony on July 21, 2008, 08:09AM
	

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Title: radioshack unit list
Post by: tony on July 21, 2008, 08:09AM

hi marko, I think you are the person maintaining a unit list for RS. Do you have a link or something to go to and print a copy? regards, tony


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: Zardoz on July 21, 2008, 05:09PM

I am looking for information about the Radio Shack "Master Chess Computer" - not the RS Master 2250. They were produced at about the same time - maybe the Master Chess Computer was slightly newer.

It was obviously made by Saitek and resembles the RS2200x (I have one) and Saitek Models of the same era.

Is it a clone of a Saitek model? If so, then which one.


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on July 22, 2008, 09:19AM

[quote author=tony link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11331 date=1216652987]
hi marko, I think you are the person maintaining a unit list for RS. Do you have a link or something to go to and print a copy? regards, tony
[/quote]

Hi Tony,

Here is a link to the Radio Shack listing in Word format:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8374814/8441f9ed/sharing.html (http://www.4shared.com/dir/8374814/8441f9ed/sharing.html)

Let me know if you have any trouble with the link or the file.

Nest regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on July 22, 2008, 10:06AM

[quote author=Zardoz link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11334 date=1216685392]
I am looking for information about the Radio Shack "Master Chess Computer" - not the RS Master 2250. They were produced at about the same time - maybe the Master Chess Computer was slightly newer.

It was obviously made by Saitek and resembles the RS2200x (I have one) and Saitek Models of the same era.

Is it a clone of a Saitek model? If so, then which one.


[/quote]

Hi Zardoz,

The Radio Shack Master Chess, part number 60-2217, was produced in 1998. I believe it is a clone of the Saitek Centurion (also made in 1998). If you find out for sure please let me know.

Best regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: tony on July 22, 2008, 10:51AM

thanks Marko, that link worked fine. downloaded the list right to "word" regards, Tony


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: Zardoz on July 22, 2008, 01:15PM

[quote author=marko link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11337 date=1216746364]
[quote author=Zardoz link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11334 date=1216685392]
I am looking for information about the Radio Shack "Master Chess Computer" - not the RS Master 2250. They were produced at about the same time - maybe the Master Chess Computer was slightly newer.

It was obviously made by Saitek and resembles the RS2200x (I have one) and Saitek Models of the same era.

Is it a clone of a Saitek model? If so, then which one.


[/quote]

Hi Zardoz,

The Radio Shack Master Chess, part number 60-2217, was produced in 1998. I believe it is a clone of the Saitek Centurion (also made in 1998). If you find out for sure please let me know.

Best regards,
Marko
[/quote]

Thanks Marko! That makes sense. There have been a couple of them for sale on ebay - in fact there is one that can be bid on right now.


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: spacious_mind on July 22, 2008, 03:20PM

Hi Marko,
The Saitek Centurion is one of the many GK2100 clones, with same bugs that you find with Cosmos, Expert Travel Chess and Cougar.

The RadioShack 2200X is not one of these. It is very likely a GK2000 clone and not GK2100 (Centurion etc). If it were a GK2100 clone then it would be as strong as the RS2250XL which is a close relative in playing strength to the GK2100 clones. The RS2200X is not as strong as the RS2250XL.

ps... As far as the Master Chess from Radioshack, I think it is weaker then the RS2200X or a GK2000 Clone, therefore it is probably something else.

All the best

Nick


on 1216685392]
I am looking for information about the Radio Shack "Master Chess Computer" - not the RS Master 2250. They were produced at about the same time - maybe the Master Chess Computer was slightly newer.

It was obviously made by Saitek and resembles the RS2200x (I have one) and Saitek Models of the same era.

Is it a clone of a Saitek model? If so, then which one.


[/quote, marko link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11337 date=1216746364]
[quote author=Zardoz wrote
:


Hi Zardoz,

The Radio Shack Master Chess, part number 60-2217, was produced in 1998. I believe it is a clone of the Saitek Centurion (also made in 1998). If you find out for sure please let me know.

Best regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: Zardoz on July 22, 2008, 07:25PM

Thanks for the input Nick.

The GK2000 and the RS2200x definately seem to be the same machine - I own both. I bought the RS2200x years ago thinking that is was a clone of the GK2100 - it most definately is not.

The RS Master Chess certainly looks like the Saitek Centurion - but I have not player with either.


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on July 30, 2008, 08:40PM

I have updated the Tandy / Radio Shack listing to match the dates in the Timeline by Michael Watters (Chesscomputeruk.com). The new file is at:

TandyRadioShack30Jul08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/57197605/f3c1b3cf/TandyRadioShack30Jul08.html)

Please let me know of any additions or corrections.

Best regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: spacious_mind on August 1, 2008, 10:31AM

Hi Marko,
Just an observation to your list. There absolutely no way that Master Chess should be (oops!)ociated with Centurion. Centurion has a Wiki ELO of approx 2000 whereas the Master is more likely less than 1900. It is stronger than the 2150's but weaker then the 2200X.

The box has the same dimensions as the Centurion but the comparison ends there. The color is a dirty gray wheras the Centurion is a silver color. The design of the Centurion is the same as the Cougar but not as wide.

The Centurion is stronger then the RS2200X therefore the Master 60-2217 is not in the same league.

I think it would be very misleading to keep the (oops!)ociation the same as you have in your list.

Thanks and best regards

Nick

[quote author=marko link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11360 date=1217475642]
I have updated the Tandy / Radio Shack listing to match the dates in the Timeline by Michael Watters (Chesscomputeruk.com). The new file is at:

TandyRadioShack30Jul08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/57197605/f3c1b3cf/TandyRadioShack30Jul08.html)

Please let me know of any additions or corrections.

Best regards,
Marko
[/quote]


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: Zardoz on August 1, 2008, 01:05PM

I have wondered about the "Master Chess" for some time but I have not seen any ratings for it. It seems strange that it would be fit between the 2200 and the 2150 since those two models represent different programmers.

It begs the question: Is this an upgraded version of the 2150 or a downgraded version of the 2200?


on 1217475642]
I have updated the Tandy / Radio Shack listing to match the dates in the Timeline by Michael Watters (Chesscomputeruk.com). The new file is at:

TandyRadioShack30Jul08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/57197605/f3c1b3cf/TandyRadioShack30Jul08.html)

Please let me know of any additions or corrections.

Best regards,
Marko
[/quote, spacious_mind link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11365 date=1217611865]
Hi Marko,
Just an observation to your list. There absolutely no way that Master Chess should be (oops!)ociated with Centurion. Centurion has a Wiki ELO of approx 2000 whereas the Master is more likely less than 1900. It is stronger than the 2150's but weaker then the 2200X.

The box has the same dimensions as the Centurion but the comparison ends there. The color is a dirty gray wheras the Centurion is a silver color. The design of the Centurion is the same as the Cougar but not as wide.

The Centurion is stronger then the RS2200X therefore the Master 60-2217 is not in the same league.

I think it would be very misleading to keep the (oops!)ociation the same as you have in your list.

Thanks and best regards

Nick

[quote author=marko wrote
:


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on August 1, 2008, 04:07PM

[quote author=spacious_mind link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11365 date=1217611865]
Hi Marko,
Just an observation to your list. There absolutely no way that Master Chess should be (oops!)ociated with Centurion. Centurion has a Wiki ELO of approx 2000 whereas the Master is more likely less than 1900. It is stronger than the 2150's but weaker then the 2200X.

The box has the same dimensions as the Centurion but the comparison ends there. The color is a dirty gray wheras the Centurion is a silver color. The design of the Centurion is the same as the Cougar but not as wide.

The Centurion is stronger then the RS2200X therefore the Master 60-2217 is not in the same league.

I think it would be very misleading to keep the (oops!)ociation the same as you have in your list.

Thanks and best regards

Nick
[/quote]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the comments. I have removed the reference to the Centurion from the listing. The new file is at:
TandyRadioShack01Aug08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/57427295/21700f8/TandyRadioShack01Aug08.html)

To me, the Master 60-2217 and the Centurion look very similar:





Best regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: tony on August 2, 2008, 04:51AM

hi Nick, if you put the 2200X next to a GK-2000 they are identical. program wise I don't know. I own all of them, but haven't got around to playing them against each other.
note: the 1850 ( 60-2199) runs only on batteries, but if you remove the little side plate. there are mounting holes for a AC adapter and on-off switch. do the later 1850's have this incorperated. what is the added 17th level for the later 1850's. I (oops!)ume all 3 have the same program. I added the AC adapter to my 60-2199, easy to wire in. takes a size K radioshack, same as the 1650.
regards, Tony


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on August 20, 2008, 08:12PM

I have added another model to the Tandy / Radio Shack listing. It is part number 60-2175 Tandy Computerized Chess. It has an LCD display and appears very similar to the Scisys Intercontinental Traveler. The number of units in the list is now 36. The updated file is here:

TandyRadioShack14Aug08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/59833269/19c655dd/TandyRadioShack14Aug08.html)

Best regards,
Marko


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: Overtom on August 21, 2008, 06:50AM

[quote author=marko link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11411 date=1219288324]
I have added another model to the Tandy / Radio Shack listing. It is part number 60-2175 Tandy Computerized Chess. It has an LCD display and appears very similar to the Scisys Intercontinental Traveler. The number of units in the list is now 36. The updated file is here:

TandyRadioShack14Aug08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/59833269/19c655dd/TandyRadioShack14Aug08.html)

Best regards,
Marko
[/quote]

Hi Nick,

does one have to sign up for this service, or can the list be downloaded in another way?

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:radioshack unit list
Post by: marko on August 21, 2008, 08:52AM

[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11412 date=1219326607]
[quote author=marko link=board=1;threadid=1632;start=0#msg11411 date=1219288324]
I have added another model to the Tandy / Radio Shack listing. It is part number 60-2175 Tandy Computerized Chess. It has an LCD display and appears very similar to the Scisys Intercontinental Traveler. The number of units in the list is now 36. The updated file is here:

TandyRadioShack14Aug08.doc (http://www.4shared.com/file/59833269/19c655dd/TandyRadioShack14Aug08.html)

Best regards,
Marko
[/quote]

Hi Nick,

does one have to sign up for this service, or can the list be downloaded in another way?

Best regards,

tom
[/quote]

Hi Tom,

The hosting service at 4shared.com is free. If you are having problems downloading the file let me know and I will email it to you.

Best regards,
Marko



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