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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Mike Watters on January 24, 2009, 07:26AM
	

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Title: Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mike Watters on January 24, 2009, 07:26AM

Hi All

Sorting through the collection today I came across a set of mystery chess pieces. I have no idea which chess computer they belong to, if any. They are plastic with a rubbery feel with magnets in the base. Can anybody identify them please?



All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Overtom on January 24, 2009, 12:06PM

[quote author=Mike Watters link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11915 date=1232810760]
Hi All
Sorting through the collection today I came across a set of mystery chess pieces. I have no idea which chess computer they belong to, if any. They are plastic with a rubbery feel with magnets in the base. Can anybody identify them please?


I bought my computer in Paris a long time ago, wich is clearly visible. It doesn't exactly look like new :(.

I hope yours looks better.

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mike Watters on January 24, 2009, 12:49PM

Many thanks Tom. Mystery solved !

Though I have never had a Yeno 301XL.

I wonder where they came from? ;D

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Robert Weck on January 24, 2009, 02:52PM

[quote author=Mike Watters link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11917 date=1232830146]
Many thanks Tom. Mystery solved !

Though I have never had a Yeno 301XL.

I wonder where they came from? ;D

All the best
Mike
[/quote]
maybe from another Yeno chess computer? ;)

Btw: i had the same pieces together with a small magnetic chess set (no computer), long before the first Yeno chess computer was built (maybe it was even before the CC 1 hit the market)


Robert


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: sderyke2002 on January 24, 2009, 05:53PM

[quote author=Robert Weck link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11918 date=1232837569]
Btw: i had the same pieces together with a small magnetic chess set (no computer), long before the first Yeno chess computer was built (maybe it was even before the CC 1 hit the market)

Robert
[/quote]

Yes, I was thinking they reminded me of those from an old folding vinyl magnetic chess set where the board folds into a small box about 3 x 7 x 3/4 inches


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Robert Weck on January 25, 2009, 03:18AM

[quote author=sderyke2002 link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11919 date=1232848405]
Yes, I was thinking they reminded me of those from an old folding vinyl magnetic chess set where the board folds into a small box about 3 x 7 x 3/4 inches
[/quote]
Exactly!


Robert


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mephisto on January 25, 2009, 09:20AM

Hi Mike
Maybe it's time to start looking at those old people homes around your area now that your memory's starting to fade ha ha.
Bryan


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mike Watters on January 25, 2009, 03:55PM

Hey that's too near the truth Bryan. :P

If a chess computer arrives during the summer I tend to play just a couple of games to make sure everything is Ok and put it in a heap. The heap grows and stray piece sets, adaptors and bits 'appear' around the place. In winter I try to make sense of chaos. These chess pieces probably came with a job lot from a old chap in Abingdon. There was an Atlanta, Diamond II, Mega IV, Voice Sensory and something called a Go 1680L. All the chess pieces were mixed up in a box. I thought the pieces might be from the Go, but it turned out No.

Tom your Yeno may be past it's best, like one or two of us here ;), but the chess pieces are a nice change from the usual bland designs.

Now are there any suitable places for Oldies with failing memory chips in Cheshire Bryan? ;D

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Overtom on January 26, 2009, 01:42AM


on 1232927715, Mike Watters wrote:

Tom your Yeno may be past it's best, like one or two of us here ;), but the chess pieces are a nice change from the usual bland designs.

For the condidtion of the Yeno computer I'm fully to be blamed. First, I had it displayed on a cupboard for a long time, and when it looked somewhat dirty after that maltreatment, I cleaned it with some rather abrasive detergent. But as you can see, the chessmen still look alright and their similarity to yours is striking.

, I made a new picture and added some more information about it on my site.

And I played a few more games, which convinced me that this computer may not be a titan, but cannot be ranked amongst the very weak. Out of four games, it beat Fritz-one-ply twice and one game was drawn. It lost only one game (because it had too little insight into endgames). And I found that the information which I read on the Internet that this Yeno has no opening library, is not entirely correct. The computer has an opening library, but probably no greater than a few dozen moves.

With looking-forward-to-your-end-of-winter-sale regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: bobosse on January 26, 2009, 03:04PM

Yeno was specialised in low cost poor software game. The 301XL was the first of the list.
However they also had one low cost good software game: the 532 XL with a variant of the MM-II software.
But they did not have a good success with it.

Note that the 532 XL has your pieces.

And regarding to these pieces, they were also used in the following chess box set from Lexibook - but with a black and white colour:


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mike Watters on January 27, 2009, 04:10AM

Mmm will have to get one of these Yenos. You guys are a great source of Yeno information. Timeline updated. ;)

Nothing on Wiki about Yeno at all! But I see that Nick has seven of them !!

With looking-forward-to-your-end-of-winter-sale regards,
tom


Should be able to put up the Sale & Swap 2009 webpage in next two or three days. Discounts for regular posters on this Message Board ! And with the GBP worth practically nothing you will be almost stealing them. :(

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Robert Weck on January 27, 2009, 04:29PM

[quote author=Mike Watters link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11933 date=1233058247]
Nothing on Wiki about Yeno at all! But I see that Nick has seven of them !!
[/quote]
Yeno chess computers are very rare in Germany.

I know only 6: 301XL, 320XT, 416XL, 430XT, 532XL, 540XT. Which am i missing?

The 532XL is by far the strongest among them (as bobbose wrote, it is a MM II clone); and surprisingly the 301XL is not the weakest: it scored 4:0 against the 540XT (which disappointed me regarding it's playing strength)


Robert


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Steve B on January 27, 2009, 09:52PM


on 1233102592, Robert Weck wrote:

Yeno chess computers are very rare in Germany.

I know only 6: 301XL, 320XT, 416XL, 430XT, 532XL, 540XT. Which am i missing?
Robert


i think there are only two more Yeno's Robert
the 309XT:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/858165147/in/set-72157600922174174/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/859031178/in/set-72157600922174174]http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/859031178/in/set-72157600922174174[/url]/

and the Yeno Travel Chess :
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/858165147/in/set-72157600922174174/)

Eight Is Enough Regards
Steve


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: alainza on January 27, 2009, 10:12PM

Hi,

[quote author=Robert Weck link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11934 date=1233102592]
I know only 6: 301XL, 320XT, 416XL, 430XT, 532XL, 540XT. Which am i missing?
[/quote]
There are a few more, here are some pictures got from ebay:
301 XL

309 XT

320 XT

325 XL

416 XL

430 XT

532 XL

540 XL

Travel


in my auction database, I also have 310 XL and 425 XL but these are old auctions and could be mistakes from me.

Best regards,
Alain


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Mike Watters on January 28, 2009, 12:49AM

Hi All

That makes nine now. I have release dates for Robert's six plus the Travel, but not the apparently rarer 309XT or 325XL. The 325XL sounds like 1996/97 from JBs website. Is there any more information on the 309XT?

Yeno regards
Mike

PS - A certain jcd_2008 (37) from France bought both a 309XT and a 325XL (10 Euros) on Ebay in October, so maybe not so rare?





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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: spacious_mind on January 28, 2009, 04:26AM

There is also a 3210 XT.

It looks like the 320 XT but it is blue. Or at least that is how I remember it. Once I get to the box in which it is stored, I will take a photo.

All the best

Nick


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: Steve B on January 28, 2009, 06:19AM

[quote author=Mike Watters link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11937 date=1233132565]
Hi All

That makes nine now. I have release dates for Robert's six plus the Travel, but not the apparently rarer 309XT or 325XL. The 325XL sounds like 1996/97 from JBs website. Is there any more information on the 309XT?

Yeno regards
Mike
[/quote]

All i have on the 309XT Mike is that it has 4kRom and runs at 8Mhz
no release dates sorry..

as to me operating the Elite Private Line..
this is my current choice but we do not have to commit ourselves for several months yet so i am playing around with Alains web site switching computers up and down
:)

anyway if you look at the current choices both Hans and Christian will be operating the same exact computers
:o Regards :o
Steve



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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: alainza on January 28, 2009, 07:00AM

Hi Nick,

[quote author=spacious_mind link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11939 date=1233145615]
There is also a 3210 XT.

It looks like the 320 XT but it is blue. Or at least that is how I remember it. Once I get to the box in which it is stored, I will take a photo.
[/quote]

To simplify, I did not post this picture this morning, but yes, there is also a blue 320 XT:


Best regards,
Alain


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Title: Re:Mystery Chess Pieces ?
Post by: spacious_mind on January 28, 2009, 03:49PM


on 1233145615, Alain Zanchetta link=board=1;threadid=1746;start=0#msg11941 date=1233154804]
Hi Nick,

[quote author=spacious_mind wrote
:

There is also a 3210 XT.

It looks like the 320 XT but it is blue. Or at least that is how I remember it. Once I get to the box in which it is stored, I will take a photo.


To simplify, I did not post this picture this morning, but yes, there is also a blue 320 XT:


Hi Alain,
Yes that is the one. I think on the back of the computer itself it says 3210 XT which I guess differentiates it because of the blue color.

All the best

Nick



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