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Print Page Chess Computer Community
    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Alain Zanchetta on December 29, 2009, 11:16PM
	

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Title: 2010 Challenge
Post by: alainza on December 29, 2009, 11:16PM

Hello,

in the last years, I have almost never played chess, except for a few games during hollidays. For 2010, I decided to try to play "a lot" against my machines and here is what I'll try to do :
  • Each time I select a machine, I play 4 serious games (i.e. no opening book for me, no take back) against it at 30 minutes / games (or the closest level if not possible)
  • The Elo performance of all the games played by myself define the next opponent, of course I'll select each time a machine against which I haven't already played (the Elo reference is Wiki rapid)
  • The idea is to try to play a new machine each week

  • As it was my very first machine, I have selected the Chess Challenger 7 as my first opponent. The difficulty here was to decide the level to set : Level 2 is the closest to 30 secondes / move and is the one which is usually choosen for this machine for rapid games, but I thought it was too weak and I played my four games at level 3.
    The CC7 rating on schachcomputer.info is 1076 in rapid games and 1311 in tournament (SSDF). A small extrapolation gave 1234 for Level 3.

    Results of the first match : Alain 4 - 0 Chess Challenger 7 (Level 3)
    Elo performance (given by CB9) : 2034

    This is of course not my level (which should be around 1500) but simply defines my next opponent : it will be the Citrine (and I expect now 0 points out of 4 which will reduce the performance to a more realistinc level)

    I'll try to take advantage of these games to update the machines pages on my web site...

    Alain


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: kaseldop on January 2, 2010, 04:20PM

Hi Alain,
Sounds a great idea, I'll check back and see how you get on. What computers have you got for this? :)


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: alainza on January 2, 2010, 10:38PM

Hi,

[quote author=kaseldop link=board=1;threadid=1891;start=0#msg12504 date=1262478025]
Hi Alain,
Sounds a great idea, I'll check back and see how you get on. What computers have you got for this? :)
[/quote]
I have many computers (http://www.zanchetta.net/echecs/default.aspx?page=chesscomputers.aspx) : too many to play a "real" tournament with machine vs machine games.
Of course, with the "rules" I'll follow, strong machines will not play because my performance will soon drive me to low-middle range computers.
May be should I have done differently ? for example playing 2 games against each of my machine, first against the weaker, and then against the stronger, etc.. But I prefered to play at least 4 games against each one.

Best regards,
Alain


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: Steve B on January 3, 2010, 04:00AM

[quote author=Alain Zanchetta link=board=1;threadid=1891;start=#msg12505 date=1262500734]
I have many computers (http://www.zanchetta.net/echecs/default.aspx?page=chesscomputers.aspx) : too many to play a "real" tournament with machine vs machine games.

Best regards,
Alain

[/quote]


And you probably have even more computers then your web site shows
did you ever get a chance to update it to make it more current with all of your computers?

Paris 2010 Regards
SteveB


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: alainza on January 3, 2010, 07:27AM

Hi Steve,
[quote author=Steve B link=board=1;threadid=1891;start=0#msg12506 date=1262520035]
And you probably have even more computers then your web site shows
did you ever get a chance to update it to make it more current with all of your computers?
[/quote]
you are right, the list is incomplete and very important computers are missing : CC1, Amsterdam, Berlin Pro, Super Forte, Scorpio, Sparc and Brute Force modules, Resurrection II
I wanted to make more complete pages, with more informations, games and pictures... but this was probably too much work for the time I have 8)

All the best,
Alain


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: domino07fr on January 13, 2010, 01:20PM

Hello,

This is a nice idea!

I would like to know if you play:
o 4 times with white,
o 2 white & 2 black,
o 1 W, 1 B, 1 W, 1 B
o ...

Another interesting question: are you planing to play the same opening for this 2010-challenge?

Bien cordialement et bonne chance ;-),


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Title: Re:2010 Challenge
Post by: alainza on January 14, 2010, 12:19PM

Hi Dominique,

[quote author=Dominique Rodriguez link=board=1;threadid=1891;start=0#msg12517 date=1263417623]
Hello,

This is a nice idea!

I would like to know if you play:
o 4 times with white,
o 2 white & 2 black,
o 1 W, 1 B, 1 W, 1 B
o ...
[/Quote]
1 W, 1 B, 1 W, 1 B

[quote]
Another interesting question: are you planing to play the same opening for this 2010-challenge?
[/quote]
yes, I am trying to. I have never understood anything in openings and so I think that trying to play the same openings (I am not the only one to decide) could help me understand what kind of positions come from each one (I need many games for that).

[quote]Bien cordialement et bonne chance ;-),
[/quote]
thanks again ! So far the results are :

Alain 4 - 0 CC 7 (Level 3)
Alain 0 - 4 Citrine (G/30)
Alain 3 - 0 Mephisto Mirage (30s / move)

All the best,
Alain
[/quote]



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