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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Ismenio on July 17, 2005, 02:13PM
	

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Title: A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Ismenio on July 17, 2005, 02:13PM

I was just checking eBay today (Haven't done that in a while, good for my bank account!) and I found something interesting.

This I believe was a legit auction from April, this year and we can still access it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5181250841

Now how about these two? Look at the text!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5220117012
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5220117211

It really looks like a copycat of the Tasc scam or the same folks now trying to the trick with a different computer!

Ismenio


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Dick Schneiders on July 17, 2005, 04:46PM


on 1121634830, Ismenio wrote:

I was just checking eBay today (Haven't done that in a while, good for my bank account!) and I found something interesting.

This I believe was a legit auction from April, this year and we can still access it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5181250841

Now how about these two? Look at the text!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5220117012
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5220117211

It really looks like a copycat of the Tasc scam or the same folks now trying to the trick with a different computer!

Ismenio


Yes, it is another scam. I posted on CCC about this a couple of days ago, because the initial sale was from Clive Munro who is a regular at CCC. Clive confirmed that this was, once again, someone trying to scam buyers using one of his prior sales. The infamous Tasc scam, that has been repeated several times, was also originally an eBay auction by Clive.

He was shocked that, once again, his auction was chosen to be the basis of this obvious scam. He notified eBay and they should be removing the sales soon.


By the way, Ismenio, the package arrived yesterday and I will send you the payment tomorrow. Thanks again.

Dick Schneiders


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Ismenio on July 18, 2005, 04:22AM

Thanks Dick. Did you get the Designer to run on an A/C adapter?

Ismenio


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Ismenio on July 18, 2005, 04:53AM

Also, while we're at it, is it just me or are we not seeing as many offers for chess computers on eBay as we used to?

Based on the number of hits on my search and the brand/models listed it seems to me things are not what they used to be, even in offers from Germany!

Ismenio


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Dick Schneiders on July 18, 2005, 05:26AM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=367;start=0#msg2905 date=1121685775]
Thanks Dick. Did you get the Designer to run on an A/C adapter?

Ismenio
[/quote]

Yes, it seems to work fine with an adapter. This one actually looks better to me than the dull brown color of the Designer Mach III that I have. Do each of the various Designer series models have a different color?

Dick Schneiders


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Robert Weck on July 19, 2005, 06:01AM

[quote author=Dick Schneiders link=board=1;threadid=367;start=0#msg2908 date=1121689581]
Yes, it seems to work fine with an adapter. This one actually looks better to me than the dull brown color of the Designer Mach III that I have. Do each of the various Designer series models have a different color?
[/quote]
Hm, the Designer 2000 is grey, the 2265 (Mach III) brown and I think the 2100 and 2325 (Mach IV) should be black (I'm not quite sure about the last two, because I don't own a 2100 and my 2325 is well hidden in a case! ;D)


best regards,
Robert


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Ismenio on July 19, 2005, 09:09AM

We have pictures of the 2325 on the thread below, including the "inflated" ELO certificate which reminds me I still need to send a copy of it to Mike! :o
I had to edit the original message as the pictures were not showing up (!?)

http://users.boardnation.com/~chesscomputers/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=249;start=0










Ismenio


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Dick Schneiders on July 19, 2005, 10:26AM

Well, that is a bit of a surprise. I actually like the look of the black and green Fidelity Designer Mach IV.

However, that means that I now need to find one of these beasts for myself.

Dick Schneiders


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: PaulM on July 20, 2005, 06:16PM

Fortunately, with less than 10 min. to go, nobody bid on the Mephisto Lyon scam computer on eBay.


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Ismenio on July 20, 2005, 06:42PM

Hi Paul,

That is good news! It ended without any bid.
Now Dick mentioned Clive notified eBay, so I wonder why they didn't take it down! ???
Interestingly, there wa a special on CNBC (I think) about eBay and tere was a segment about scammers! :o

In other news, the defective Bavaria sold for US $2,447.00!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5217852279

Ismenio


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Endspielgott on July 20, 2005, 11:47PM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=367;start=0#msg2945 date=1121910123]
In other news, the defective Bavaria sold for US $2,447.00!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5217852279
[/quote]

Ismenio,

this was a fake also! From those guys who bid on this machine one had only one positive ebay recommendation, and this exactly from the seller of the Bavaria.
And the second guy who bid on this machine didnīt use his ebay account for several years, so I suppose it is an old account (maybe of the seller himself).
I asked the seller whether he could guarantee that at least the board is ok, but his answer was very evading...

Beware of Bavaria!

Christian


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Title: Re:A copycat for the Tasc scam on eBay?
Post by: Robert Weck on July 20, 2005, 11:54PM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=367;start=0#msg2945 date=1121910123]
That is good news! It ended without any bid.
[/quote]
Ahh, sh.... I missed it!!! ;D ;D
[quote]
In other news, the defective Bavaria sold for US $2,447.00!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5217852279
[/quote]
Yes, and none of the 2 bidders has more than 4 feedbacks! ;)


Robert



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