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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Asiryangguk on November  3, 2005, 02:52PM
	

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Title: What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Asiryangguk on November 3, 2005, 02:52PM

For loyal owners of the Novag Solo who cannot bear to see it slip as it ages, there is something you can do if the computer appears to stall too often for comfort. After a rocky beginning, my used Ebay model seems to have "settled down" and only stalls once in maybe about every 500 moves played.

Let’s say that you’re White. The computer (Black) mulls its move, but the LCD display stops flashing those Ls (upside up or down depending on which color it has), which means it has stalled. Press ENTER. The computer will think again, but for the last side that made a legal move, in this case you, effectively giving you two moves in one turn. Let it think of this illegal move. When it releases its decision, take it back. Take your own legal (first) move back as well, and then replay it. The computer will then think as Black now. Repeat as necessary.


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Ismenio on November 3, 2005, 03:45PM

That's a strange behaviour. I can take a look at mine this weekend and see if I can help with something.
Now, about those 500 moves, that's not "per game" is it? ;D (just kidding!!!)

Regards,

Ismenio


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Mike Watters on November 3, 2005, 03:54PM

Hi Asiryangguk

I have a Solo. A gift from that very generous and well known Roboteer, Mr Ismenio Sousa. :) My Solo has never done the trick you describe, but there again I haven't seen it play 500 moves. I was going to use it for blindfold chess. However an attempted blindfold game with Dick using CC1 notation cured me of that idea.

There are a few of the oldies with "loveable" quirks. The old Sargon 2.5 has a dodgy switch which you are never quite sure that you have in a secure position. I've lost many games altogether just when they were getting interesting.

The Solo is around 18 years old so the odd quirk might be forgiven?

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Asiryangguk on November 3, 2005, 08:24PM

Hi Mike,

Oh, I totally agree. The glitch seems all but gone and I won't lose sleep over it. But what happens if this were to happen more often? I don't even want to think of that possibility (pensive look).

What do computer conservationists in this forum think about the idea of putting NIB chess computers in vacuum sealed containers to minimize/prevent "rusting" and "aging"? It's just a thought...


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: me on November 3, 2005, 11:07PM

How about putting chess computer COLLECTORS in vacuum sealed containers to minimize/prevent "rusting" and "aging"?


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Ismenio on November 4, 2005, 05:32AM

[quote author=me link=board=1;threadid=553;start=0#msg4274 date=1131088065]
How about putting chess computer COLLECTORS in vacuum sealed containers to minimize/prevent "rusting" and "aging"?
[/quote]

I'm willing to be the guinea pig for that project ;D

But on preserving the actual machines, I think each one probably has his own way of dealing with it. I think it was Robert who once said that, if I buy a chess computer, I have to play with it!

I tend to agree with that! What I usually do is to play with a computer until I’m “satisfied” and then it goes back to the box and is stored until I feel like getting to it again. I then move on to another computer and it starts all over again.

I think the only exception that I have is with the Fidelity Travel Master because it is so delicate and I think it is very hard to find a perfectly working unit. But I have no problem getting it out of the box and showing to friends ;)

Maybe we should start thinking about using the services from these folks: http://www.alcor.org/

;)

Ismenio


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Endspielgott on November 4, 2005, 06:07AM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=553;start=0#msg4283 date=1131111164]

I'm willing to be the guinea pig for that project ;D


Maybe we should start thinking about using the services from these folks: http://www.alcor.org/

;)

Ismenio
[/quote]

Ismenio,

are these the guys who froze Walt Disney?

If yes you will be in famous company ;D

Christian


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Asiryangguk on November 4, 2005, 06:23AM

You are all too smart and your wallets are too big for me, LOL.

I was thinking of a low-tech (but perhaps cheap and effective?) alternative in putting the units in one of those "EZ Seal bags." I saw something on television ("as seen on TV") where someone simply took an open plastic bag and used a special "scissor" to lock off all its open ends...not even water could escape. Then again, that's as "porous" as porous can be...

Cryogenically preserving a computer would mean destroying its internal hardware anyway...(confused look at everyone else on this forum) =)


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Title: Re:What to do when the Novag Solo stalls
Post by: Ismenio on November 5, 2005, 07:59PM

Interestingly, a while ago I was trying to find how others preserve their computers. The EZ seal bags is something I could try, I think. I want to try to find good sized Styrofoam boxes for the computers I don't have the original box for.

And Christian, I think that Disney stuff is an urban legend, in the same cl(oops!) of the one that says we can see the great wall of China from the moon and the one that says that Bobby Fischer was working on a robotic chess! (I made that one up ;D )

Ismenio



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