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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Ismenio on November 24, 2005, 06:23AM
	

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Title: How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Ismenio on November 24, 2005, 06:23AM

Sorry for the basic, simple question but I want to have the two Bytes play against themselves and I'm looking for general tips on how to best do it. How do you record the game? How do you position the computers, etc ???

Thanks for your patience ::)

Ismenio


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Overtom on November 24, 2005, 07:26AM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=592;start=0#msg4629 date=1132842218]
Sorry for the basic, simple question but I want to have the two Bytes play against themselves and I'm looking for general tips on how to best do it. How do you record the game? How do you position the computers, etc ???

Thanks for your patience ::)

Ismenio
[/quote]
Maybe something like this ...



Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Ismenio on November 24, 2005, 08:10AM

Ah, the Dutch sense of humor! ;D Delicious!

Ismenio


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Mike Watters on November 24, 2005, 08:21AM

Ismenio

Not sure what the correct way is but I test chess computers side by side with white playing from nearest me. That way you have got two boards that always should be the same, and you can spot and correct mistakes. You need to decide what level they are going to play at. If they are the same as the CC7 then level 1, 2 or 3 look best. Any higher level and you will lose interest or the will to live. Do they seem to be running at the same speed?

I always record a game in progress on Pocket Fritz 2, though straight into the PC into something like Fritz is better, then you can post it on here for our edification with the minimum effort. Now if I had a chess playing wristwatch I might use that. ;D

Mike


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Overtom on November 24, 2005, 10:09AM

I agree with Mike that the difficult part usually is recording the moves. I've never done that with a third computer, but I just write them down. When I need them for publication, I'll play the game again - on Winboard or so.

But sometimes I get so absorbed by the game that I forget to write down the moves. So all I have to offer here would be rather poor advice, something like "Watch your moves" ;)

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Endspielgott on November 24, 2005, 10:34AM

Ismenio,

I do it usually together with a friend and fellow collector...he moves the whites pieces on each computer and I the black ones or vice versa.

Of course you need a fellow maniac to do this ;D

But this is nice, you can make nasty comments on the deep endgame knowledge of you machines.

I remember very well an evening we set up Boris against the Pocket Chess Champion...
Beer helps ;)

Christian


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: alainza on November 24, 2005, 01:52PM

Hi Ismenio,

I do generally like Mike : two computers side by side with white in front of me.
But if I must enter the moves with the keyboard, I only put the pieces on one computer.
To keep the moves : if the computers are week, I will write the moves on a paper and enter them later on my pocket pc (with CEBoard of course ;-) but if the computers are strong, I do use Fritz on the PC in analysis mode to help me understand what is happening.

Best,
Alain


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: Robert Weck on November 25, 2005, 01:39AM

Hello Ismenio,


on 1132869168]
I do generally like Mike : two computers side by side with white in front of me.
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And i also do it like Mike and Alain! ;)
[quote, Alain Zanchetta wrote:

But if I must enter the moves with the keyboard, I only put the pieces on one computer.
To keep the moves : if the computers are week, I will write the moves on a paper and enter them later on my pocket pc (with CEBoard of course ;-) but if the computers are strong, I do use Fritz on the PC in analysis mode to help me understand what is happening.

I usually record all games with a pocket pc (Pocket Fritz 2) or a notebook (Chessbase 8 or Fritz 7), because when i write them down, i make too many mistakes, which does not happen so easily, when Fritz controls my input! ;)

I see no reason, why i should do the same work twice... (first on paper and then on PC)

And last, but not least: i find it very interesting to follow the analysis of Fritz, Shredder or Fruit! (then i often wonder why MM II did not see this mate in 12, that Fritz just found! ;D ;D)


Robert


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Title: Re:How to play computer against computer?
Post by: drawmeister on November 25, 2005, 11:39AM

I have played up to 5 boards { 10 computers} at the same time.
I always put white on all boards closest to me and set an average time response for the moves, unfortunately this means that some computers do get more 'thinking' time as you can't always make the move immediately with so much going on.
If i think there has been a nice game played i retrieve it from the memory afterwards, and it's amazing to see how much you actually missed whilst operating the machines !.
If you can put up with all the bleeping and going a bit dizzy why not give it a try ?.
The last mini tournament i ran produced a surprise winner in the modest but excellent Kasparov TC2100 coming ahead of the Vancouver, Lyon {32} and Mephisto Master etc.

Ian.



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