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Print Page Chess Computer Community
    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Mike Watters on January 15, 2006, 05:02PM
	

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Title: Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Mike Watters on January 15, 2006, 05:02PM

If like me you are an avid eBaywatcher you get to see all sorts of strange behaviour and questionable selling pitches. Here is one for a $2000 Phantom :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fidelity-Electronics-Phantom-Chess-6100_W0QQitemZ8752128249QQcategoryZ2554QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You have to admire the guys nerve. :)


and this listing may look familar to Tom :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Mini-Sensory-Chess-Challenger-Electronic-Game_W0QQitemZ8751537769QQcategoryZ2554QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What a cheek!

then there is "wunderfee69" whose relentlessly touted VSC now has an aluminium mountain case:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chess-Challenger-Sensory-Voice-german-speaking-TOP_W0QQitemZ8749712363QQcategoryZ40855QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Opening price about 800 Euros. Now down to "only" 480 Euros. ::) You wait, just before the auction ends he will put it back up to 600 Euros.
He must have spent a fortune on listing fees. What perverted pleasure does he get out of it? ???

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Chris on January 16, 2006, 09:48AM

Hi Mike / All,

I don't have a VSC, now if only I were fluent in German this might be of interest.....

Perhaps it is the broken CC1 actually selling for $1,300 that has encouraged the latest bout of 'bargains'?

Anyway, my bargain of the week is the following:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Simultano-von-Seitek-Spielt-8-Partien-gleichzeitig-RAR_W0QQitemZ8749224544QQcategoryZ40855QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A Simultano for 700 euro anyone! ;) - well it does have the original box! :)

Best wishes

Chris


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: alainza on January 16, 2006, 02:05PM

speaking of ebay auctions, what about this "Kishon Chesster" ?

http://cgi.ebay.de/KISHON-CHESSTER-Schachcomputer_W0QQitemZ8752669402QQcategoryZ40855QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/KISHON-CHESSTER-Schachcomputer_W0QQitemZ8752669402QQcategoryZ40855QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Best,
Alain


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: drawmeister on January 16, 2006, 02:55PM

;D ;D ;D

I would of had that Simultano on buy it now but the seller does not take paypal.... and as for the Kishon Chesster with the 'dolly' bird i'll just take the computer as i am not a big fan of surgical enhancements ;)

Ian.


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: drawmeister on January 16, 2006, 03:21PM

Forgot to mention that my " taking liberties on E-bay" experience was when i was thinking about buying the Mephisto MM II with openings module set which was listed quite recently.

The seller had one of those auctions where you have to be 'approved' before you can bid, so duly approved i went back to the listing and saw that he had increased the buy it now price :o ...... so wait until you know someone is interested then jack the price up.


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Mike Watters on January 16, 2006, 03:28PM

Ian

I thought you were going for a full set of Chessters. :-\

Mike


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Mike Watters on January 18, 2006, 04:26PM

Wunderfee is up to his usual tricks. He extended the auction period and then he reduced the price to 350 Euros. Now he has put it up to 890 Euros, and 1890 Euros Buy-It-Now.

???

Mesmerized regards
Mike


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Chris on January 22, 2006, 01:03PM

Hi All, :)

The lucky seller of the broken CC1 is obviously hoping that lightening will strike twice - a CC7 for $200 anyone? ::)


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fidelity-CHESS-CHALLENGER-7-bcc-cc7-Like-New-BONUS_W0QQitemZ8755074255QQcategoryZ2554QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Best wishes

Chris


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Robert Weck on January 23, 2006, 01:51AM

[quote author=Mike Watters link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5034 date=1137630401]
Wunderfee is up to his usual tricks. He extended the auction period and then he reduced the price to 350 Euros. Now he has put it up to 890 Euros, and 1890 Euros Buy-It-Now.
[/quote]

BTW: "Wunderfee69" seems to be a "she"! Some feedback comments speak of a "Käuferin" (female buyer) or "ebay partnerin"

Also the name "Wunderfee" would speak for this: "Fee" is the german word for "fairy", which is normally a female mystical creature which is familiar with the art of magic.


Robert


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Ismenio on January 23, 2006, 06:25AM

Thanks for that post Robert! :) Where else could I learn German that way ;D

This is just one more example that add to the list of the reasons why I want to learn German so bad:

www.chess.at/turniere/turniere2003/chess003/video/mensch_schach_maschinen.wmv

Ich möchte Deutsches erlernen!

Ismenio


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Robert Weck on January 23, 2006, 07:31AM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5066 date=1138026308]
Thanks for that post Robert! :) Where else could I learn German that way ;D

This is just one more example that add to the list of the reasons why I want to learn German so bad:

www.chess.at/turniere/turniere2003/chess003/video/mensch_schach_maschinen.wmv
[/quote]
Thank you, Ismenio, for this nice video! (i didn't know, that Korchnoj speaks German!)


Robert


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Mike Watters on January 23, 2006, 04:31PM

[quote]BTW: "Wunderfee69" seems to be a "she"! Some feedback comments speak of a "Käuferin" (female buyer) or "ebay partnerin"

Also the name "Wunderfee" would speak for this: "Fee" is the german word for "fairy", which is normally a female mystical creature which is familiar with the art of magic.


Robert
[/quote]

Ummmm we thought "legqueen" was a female to start off with. Then the awful truth dawned. ;D

Robert I am sure you are in a better position than I to tell. Strange selling techniques whoever they are.

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Overtom on January 24, 2006, 03:11AM

[quote author=Ismenio link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5066 date=1138026308]
This is just one more example that add to the list of the reasons why I want to learn German so bad:

www.chess.at/turniere/turniere2003/chess003/video/mensch_schach_maschinen.wmv

Ich möchte Deutsches erlernen!

Ismenio
[/quote]
Even if you learn German, Ismenio, you might still not understand what Christian Donninger says. He speaks the Austrian dialect, which - to me at least - makes it a lot more difficult to grasp what he says than, for instance, my former compatriot Victor Korchnoy.

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Robert Weck on January 24, 2006, 05:30AM

Hello Tom,
[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5071 date=1138101110]
Even if you learn German, Ismenio, you might still not understand what Christian Donninger says. He speaks the Austrian dialect, which - to me at least - makes it a lot more difficult to grasp what he says than, for instance, my former compatriot Victor Korchnoy.
[/quote]
I was thinking about writing something very similar about 'Chrilly's dialect! ;)

But he is not soo hard to understand like some other Austrians like Kurt (or Bavarian, like me! The bavarian dialect is similar to the austrian)


Robert


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Overtom on January 25, 2006, 10:57AM

[quote author=Robert Weck link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5073 date=1138109450]
Hello Tom,
I was thinking about writing something very similar about 'Chrilly's dialect! ;)

But he is not soo hard to understand like some other Austrians like Kurt (or Bavarian, like me! The bavarian dialect is similar to the austrian)

Robert
[/quote]
Yes Robert, I used to think I understood German, but Donninger's lingo was even harder than late Franz Josef Strauss's.

In a few weeks' time I'll be paying a visit to Berlin, which is quite something for one who grew up at a time that all things German were frowned upon in the Netherlands (sorry, Robert).

Would you have any hints about where to go, specially where heaps of 2nd-hand computers are to be found? ;D

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Robert Weck on January 26, 2006, 07:49AM

[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5075 date=1138215468]
Yes Robert, I used to think I understood German, but Donninger's lingo was even harder than late Franz Josef Strauss's.
[/quote]

Really? I hadn't expected that...
[quote]
In a few weeks' time I'll be paying a visit to Berlin, which is quite something for one who grew up at a time that all things German were frowned upon in the Netherlands (sorry, Robert).
[/quote]
If you mean the same as i do, then i don't have a problem with it: i can understand everybody, who says: "I don't like Germans, because of what they have done to my people!" (i am not sure, if i would not think the same!)

But I was born a long time after this dark age, so i don't feel responsible for it.

But this becomes a little bit off-topic...

[quote]
Would you have any hints about where to go, specially where heaps of 2nd-hand computers are to be found? ;D
[/quote]
Too bad, i have never been to Berlin until now, so i am afraid that i can't help you! :(


I hope, you will have a nice trip! :)

Robert


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Endspielgott on January 26, 2006, 10:40AM

[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5075 date=1138215468]
Would you have any hints about where to go, specially where heaps of 2nd-hand computers are to be found? ;D

Best regards,

tom
[/quote]

Tom,

try the Ketterling store. There are always some old machines available, and if not, there is at least a nice chat to be had hence they are in the business a long time now.

http://www.elektroschach.de/

Christian


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Overtom on January 27, 2006, 03:59AM

[quote author=Robert Weck link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5081 date=1138290586]
If you mean the same as i do, then i don't have a problem with it: i can understand everybody, who says: "I don't like Germans, because of what they have done to my people!" (i am not sure, if i would not think the same!)

But I was born a long time after this dark age, so i don't feel responsible for it.

But this becomes a little bit off-topic...
Robert
[/quote]
I think you're absolutely right about that, Robert! Indeed, there is no need to feel embar(oops!)ed any longer. And these days, I've got in touch with quite a few Germans who turned out to be very nice people. So my visit to Berlin should mark a final reconciliation. Still I hope I'll survive since I heard German shops don't stock a very good choice in whiskies. ;D
If I have anything against a German-speaking people, it would be the Austrians for sending me such a large percentage of faulty chess computers (this last addition just to be not too off-topic ;D)


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Overtom on January 27, 2006, 04:53AM

[quote author=Endspielgott link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5082 date=1138300819]
[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5075 date=1138215468]
Would you have any hints about where to go, specially where heaps of 2nd-hand computers are to be found? ;D

Best regards,

tom
[/quote]

Tom,

try the Ketterling store. There are always some old machines available, and if not, there is at least a nice chat to be had hence they are in the business a long time now.

http://www.elektroschach.de/

Christian
[/quote]
Hi Christian,

Thanks for the info. Now I have to think of ways to persuade Mrs Overtom into the general direction of the Dudenstr(oops!)e. Probably, the Konditorei which is supposed to be at number 78 should do the trick ;D

If l'll manage, I hope to be able to write some kind of report.

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Endspielgott on January 27, 2006, 05:56AM

[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5089 date=1138366405]
[quote author=Endspielgott link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5082 date=1138300819]
[quote author=Overtom link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5075 date=1138215468]
Would you have any hints about where to go, specially where heaps of 2nd-hand computers are to be found? ;D

Best regards,

tom
[/quote]

Tom,

try the Ketterling store. There are always some old machines available, and if not, there is at least a nice chat to be had hence they are in the business a long time now.

http://www.elektroschach.de/

Christian
[/quote]
Hi Christian,

Thanks for the info. Now I have to think of ways to persuade Mrs Overtom into the general direction of the Dudenstr(oops!)e. Probably, the Konditorei which is supposed to be at number 78 should do the trick ;D

If l'll manage, I hope to be able to write some kind of report.

Best regards,

tom
[/quote]

Tom,

as you can see on the following map

http://www.berlin.de/stadtplan/map.asp?sid=37f8406cb5dd3b72704a4ec3b5687437&size=5x5

there is a museum nearby...Brauereimuseum. (Brewery museum)...

Would this help to convincer your wife ;)

Christian


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Title: Re:Taking Liberties on Ebay
Post by: Overtom on January 27, 2006, 11:48AM

[quote author=Endspielgott link=board=1;threadid=653;start=0#msg5091 date=1138370196]
Tom,

as you can see on the following map

http://www.berlin.de/stadtplan/map.asp?sid=37f8406cb5dd3b72704a4ec3b5687437&size=5x5

there is a museum nearby...Brauereimuseum. (Brewery museum)...

Would this help to convincer your wife ;)

Christian
[/quote]
Hi Christian,

Thanks for the suggestion. However, if you knew Mrs Overtom, you wouldn't suggest a beer museum.

By the way, she's not totally averse of chess, as you may infer from the following photo of her stocking'd legs:



Best regards,

tom



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