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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: Manjushri on May 28, 2006, 05:02PM
	

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Title: Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Manjushri on May 28, 2006, 05:02PM

Has anyone had a look at this machine. It seems very reasonably priced (48 from thechesspiece.com).
For the best handheld chess computer in the world!!!

If it really plays at ELO 2000 (probably FIDE 1800), it looks a decent deal. The pieces are way way better represented than all the other handhelds including those Novag Sapphire/Ruby jobs at two to three times the price.

I think it said somewhere 30 hours on 3 AAA batteries though which doesn't sound so good. The Excalibur Talking Chess for 12 (really??) plays quite strong (1600 FIDE) but the batteries last for ever... I still have the same ones in one year later.


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Overtom on May 28, 2006, 05:33PM

I admit 48 pounds does not sound like a lot of money for such a strong computer.

It looks, however, as if the computers are sent from the USA. If you live outside the USA, you might be charged with additional expenses, such as shipping, tax and handling.

I have very bad experience with such a situation, as you can read at http://overtom.nl/weblog/09JUN05.html

Best regards,

tom


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: chessnut23 on May 28, 2006, 09:07PM

Yes, I have one and I take it with me to work and on trips. It has a noticeably strong program that will rate your play, it will also let you shut it off then continues from that position whenever you turn it on again. I use it a lot to play the practice mode with all 8 pawns and king against the same where the object is to be the first to queen a pawn and go on to win. I also play regular games and use a regular sized board along side of it to play the moves out.
I'd say that it is probably as strong as they say at around 2,000. The symbols/graphics really are perfect. It does not have a way to use an A/C adaptor, so you have to rely on batteries, but they dont seem to wear down very quickly, maybe thats because I dont use the sound efects with the swords clanging etc, they drive me nuts, lol. I do use the sound for announcing the moves though.
It can do more than what I use it for. It never loses track of where the pieces are, never. I wish that I could say the same for my Grandmaster, also made by Excallibur :(

Gary


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Manjushri on May 29, 2006, 01:47AM

Gary,
Does this machine have a totally silent mode? The other unit I mentioned keeps beeping when you do something wrong with the keypad which is very annoying. If the batteries last longer than my Palm I could be tempted. Chess wears down palm batteries like nothing else.
I bought another unit from thechesspiece and was only charged 5 for despatch from US to UK and it arrive in 3 days. This company is very reliable (run by a Brit if I remember).


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Robert Weck on May 29, 2006, 04:53AM

[quote author=chessnut23 link=board=1;threadid=833;start=0#msg6262 date=1148875672]
I'd say that it is probably as strong as they say at around 2,000.
[/QUOTE]
If you say 'USCF-ELO', then i would say, that's correct!

I would have estimated it's strength at about 1650-1700 ELO (compared with my other computers)

It has a little disadvantage, because it has no permanent brain! (not really understandable for a modern computer!)

What disturbs me a little bit, is the fact, that is has no avg. time/move levels; it has fixed-time levels instead...
[QUOTE]
The symbols/graphics really are perfect.
[/QUOTE]
yes, because it has a dot-matrix-display, while the others (Novag Star Sapphire, Star Ruby, Saitek Maestro and so on) have symbol graphics, which are not so easy to identify

I don't know of any other touch screen computer with such good graphics!
[QUOTE]
It does not have a way to use an A/C adaptor, so you have to rely on batteries, but they dont seem to wear down very quickly, maybe thats because I dont use the sound efects with the swords clanging etc, they drive me nuts, lol.
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The same here! (maybe it is the American way of playing chess?);D

It has the same program as 'Alexandra The Great', which is a table-top computer and this also can't be used with an adaptor!


best regards,
Robert
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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Manjushri on May 29, 2006, 05:17PM

OK Robert, that's slightly disappointing as I play around 1800 ish (on a good day anyway). I was hoping it might be at least that strong.
I like to feel the opponent is stronger than me but just within my feasible range so 1900 would be about perfect for me I think.
Guess I'll keep on with the PDA and Hiarcs which can be tuned to play anywhere between 1250 and 2000 ELO.


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Mephisto on May 30, 2006, 01:13AM

Manjushri
Just to let you know that there will be two new very strong programs available soon for the Palm.
Probably the first to be released will be the Hiarcs upgrade to version 10.
I've finished a new 'Challenger' piece set for it and I think that it's almost ready.
And over the week-end, Vasik Rajlich has advised me that he plans to release a Rybka version for the Palm soon.
All very good news for Palm owners :D
Regards
Bryan


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: Manjushri on May 30, 2006, 01:18AM

Thanks Bryan,
When you say Hiarcs 'Upgrade' I hope you mean 'Free' Upgrade to current licence holders????
This will no doubt have the Opening Announcements in it that were promised.
M

PS There's nothing to touch the Palm's piece representation is there.


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Title: Re:Excalibur Deluxe Talking Touch Screen
Post by: ergundel on May 30, 2006, 09:03AM

Rybka for Palm? Wow, that should be around 2700 elo for a handheld! It's almost like having Deep Blue in your pocket!



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