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    General Category => Discussions about Chess Computers => Message started by: meishin on September  2, 2006, 12:29AM
	

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Title: Phantom Chess 1624
Post by: meishin on September 2, 2006, 12:29AM

:)I Just found your site a week ago. I am very happy to see the discussions on Phantom Chess Sets. I notice the lack of info on the 6124 so I will add what I can. I always thought my phantom was a factory hacked unit as I bought it under unusual circumstances. It looked exactly like the other 6100 phantoms with a slightly changed keyboard. It's the usual black and gold with the name Phantom Fidelity International on the top. The name Chesster is nowhere on the unit, yet it announces itself as Chesster. The sticker on back identifies it as a model 6124. There is also the remains of a previous sticker that implies that the unit was torn down, rebuilt and model changed. I don't think that they would pull the serial # if the unit was just rebuilt. The sticker fragment is too small to verify the original model type or serial #. Has anyone purchased an original 6124 as a standard product line item like the 6100 and the 6126?
I bought my Phantom back when I lived in South Florida. A small store featuring futuristic devices was selling the small talking Chesster teaching computers, Phantom 6100's, and was taking orders for the talking phantoms (advertised as a merge of Chesster and Phantom). I remember the poster picture of the talking Phantoms having a green board, probably the Model 1626. These were not yet released and only orders were being taken. Originally, I saved up and went in to get an impressive coffee machine that takes green beans. When the timer activates, it would roast the beans to the desired darkness, grind them to programmed courseness and brew the coffee. A "not for sale" Demo talking phantom was at the front of the store and asking to play a nice game of chess. I don't play much chess, but I love tech gadgets, so the phantom moving its own pieces was hard to ignore. After several same day trips to the store, I told the store owner that I was torn between the phantom 6100 and the coffee machine and he made me an offer. He told me that he found the talking demo model getting annoying after displaying it for a few days. He then offered it for the price of the coffee machine, which was slightly more than the 6100, but much cheaper than the talking models on order. My Mr Coffee still had a job. Unfortinately, the owner had thrown the original box away, but he did supply the box for the 6100 that he made into a replacement demo so I could take mine home safely. Everything else, he had saved in a bag behind the counter. The Model 6124 came with a 6100 manual, a stapled single sided 3 page addendum for the Chesster Phantom 6124, a complete box of chess pieces and a transformer. This was the only talking phantom in the store so I think that the 6124 may have been a pre-release demo promoting the 6126. It sometime fails to innitalize the first time when power is turned on and requires to be turned on a couple of times before it says "hi, I'm Chesster etc." Mine did this from the start and I thought it may be a glitch when they merged the two systems. Once it starts, it runs fine. On failing to initialize, I mean either black move lights on during lock-up or it starts to set up pieces without talking and has no function after set up is complete. The store owner noted this, but had not yet seen any other talking phantom units until then to know if that was typical. Does anyone else with a 6124 have this glitch?
All my friends and relatives who play chess have never beaten this computer at it lowest level. As of yet, I have never even come close and I hear the salesman joke frequently. This doesn't bother me as I have played the 6124 at its lowest setting against my Radio Shack chess computer at the next to highest setting and the phantom slaughters it. I must admit that it does get annoying when it asks "are you still there?" if you take some time to think about a move. I shouldn't complain, Thats how I was able to buy it in the first place. ;D
I saw mention of dust covers in other postings. Are the dust covers still available, if so, where?
Steve


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Title: Re:Phantom Chess 1624
Post by: Ismenio on September 2, 2006, 06:50PM

Steve,

Thank you so much for the great post!! I truly enjoyed reading about your adventures with your Phantom 6124! And, from what you're describing, looks like you do have a singular computer.

I heard that the 6124 is very rare exactly because of the number of units produced. I think the only difference between the 6124 and the 6126 is the motion sensor and the "eyes" (the two LEDs).

Congratulations on owning this rare machine and on preserving it! Do you have any ads or any other material from that time? What other chess computers to you have?

One thing that I though was really interesting was your comment on how strong the program is. I heard that all Phantoms have the same Par Program rated at 2100 (USCF). Have you run any of the test suites available online on yours?

The 6124 and the Mephisto Phantom are the only "Phantoms" I don't have in my collection. I suspect if a 6124 was to be available the price would be out of my range and also currently I'm maxed out as far as space goes to put new machines. I may be looking at handheld units from now on ;)

The Phantoms are still my favorites! I just can't get enough of them and to this date there hasn't been a single person I've shown them to who was not amazed at the technology. Even non-chess players! A real shame there's nothing like them on the market today :(

Best regards,

Ismenio


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Title: Re:Phantom Chess 1624
Post by: Ronald on September 24, 2006, 01:51AM

Hi Steve

I own several Phantoms and one of the is the 6124.

Indeed you are right that it's the pre-version of the 6126, based on the 6100. They were built in small series. It is even possible to convert a 6100 into a 6124, if you own the small piggy-pack board with ROMs.

My unit does not have any initialization problem in speaking. It's the opposite: I want sometimes to turn off the speech.

Do you have instructions for the 6124 which can be copied?

Thank you
Ronald


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Title: Re:Phantom Chess 1624
Post by: Mike Watters on September 24, 2006, 02:25AM

It is good to hear about the Phantom Chesster 6124s guys. I wonder if they were all converted 6100s with the Gold/Black squares etc?

The instructions for the 6126 are the same as for the 6100 with just the extra game options - Character, coach and demo modes - explained. Is there more to the 6124 instructions?

All the best
Mike


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Title: Re:Phantom Chess 1624
Post by: meishin on April 5, 2014, 12:06PM

I'm back. Lost this site with my computer lightning death in 06 and just found it again. Forgot all about my thread or membership. Fortunately my email is the same so I recovered my account. I decided to reactivate the dead thread as it appears to be the only one touching the 1624.
I am getting ready to dis(oops!)emble the 1624 to try and repair the initializing problem and intermittent freezes. Before doing so I am attempting to locate any data on safe dis-(oops!)embly or schematics. Other then the 6502.org information on the processor I have found nothing. Ronald, if you are still looking for the instructions, it was the 1600 booklet with a photocopy addendum. I can find it again and send it. The voice can be turned off.
Does anyone know any sites covering the teardown or repair of the Phantom Chess 16XX series?



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