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Re:Chess King - Handheld - any info?
« on: June 3, 2005, 07:22AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on June  3, 2005, 05:09AM   
Tom, you almost got competition here
These past days I've been so busy that I haven't had time even to check on the computers I have on my watch list and that I was interested in. That was one of them, mostly because of the box.
Congratulations! Let us know when we'll be able to see it on your great site! I especially enjoy seeing the little babies there. I know some collectors stay away from the handhelds but those are some of favorite ones!
Any update on the delivery of that Chessica from the US?
Let me know if I can help you with that.
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Thanks for ignoring the Chess King! There are not many goodies around at the Anglosaxon side of eBay these days. Many new and uninteresting computers - at least to me  >:(.

The Chessica cost me more than I expected: the Dutch post delivered an additional bill for 35 euros clearance and expenses - the first time I ever had to pay customs clearance on eBay goods.

But I already took the first picture. I could not completely avoid all reflections.



As usual, Excalibur does not volunteer too much information about processor, memory and things like that! If you have any information, it would be most welcome.

By the way, I'm trying to gauge its strength, so I'm trying to get some games going with other computers. The first candidate is the Star Ruby - which is so UNintuitive to operate that the first two games were broken off because I just did not manage to persuade it to go on: very user-UNfriendly indeed!

But in the meantime, if you have any info on that Chessica .... (I only found out this was the Chessica you described the other day when she started talking )

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Re:Chess King - Handheld - any info?
« Reply #1 on: June 3, 2005, 05:09AM »
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Tom, you almost got competition here
These past days I've been so busy that I haven't had time even to check on the computers I have on my watch list and that I was interested in. That was one of them, mostly because of the box.
Congratulations! Let us know when we'll be able to see it on your great site! I especially enjoy seeing the little babies there. I know some collectors stay away from the handhelds but those are some of favorite ones!

Any update on the delivery of that Chessica from the US?
Let me know if I can help you with that.

Best,

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Re:Chess King - Handheld - any info?
« Reply #2 on: June 3, 2005, 12:54AM »
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Tom

Congratulations on the latest addition to the Overtom family.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2554&item=5202311705&rd=1

I shall be chasing the next one to appear.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2005, 05:53PM »
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Oops! I hadn't looked at the list of bidders! 
So Dick strikes again!

I can't recall how much the Sphinx card cost but my Fidelity one, complete with all package and with the pieces still in the magnetic plate cost me about $9 a year ago
But that wasn't on eBay!

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2005, 03:14PM »
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By the way, did you see this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5194368387


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Crikey!! Dick really made tradingman dig into his savings and must have been surprised that he didn't get it.

Of course this one is brand new, which makes a difference. I cannot remember what the Milton Keynes one was but only a fraction I think?

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2005, 02:35PM »
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Yes, I remember that one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5190634794
Because I also wanted it!

Congratulations! I especially liked the price!

By the way, did you see this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5194368387


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Quote from: Ismenio on April 28, 2005, 10:15AM   

Thanks for that post Mike. I'm very much interested in this.

Another version of Chess King is on eBay. I'll try to get it, as long as the price stays low.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5190634794

Based on Steffen's previous post I think this one is less common than the one I just got.
Notice how the seller stays it's the "world's smallest chess computer" when that's not accurate.
The Fidelity Chess Card and the Sphinx Chesscard are the smallest ones.

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As you probably remember Steve B bid highest for the one shown in your picture, but surprisingly another one turned up on Ebay.

This time I got it :-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5196257220&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

It arrived today. Opening the little machine up, on the inside it says - Designed and Manufactured in England. At last I have found a chess computer actually made here.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2005, 11:17AM »
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Ismenio

This seems to be the Mighty Midget, which is on Karsten Bs list and is the same as the Chess King on Tom's website.

Rugby is only about 30 miles up the M1 Motorway. So if the deal goes wrong let me know and I can sort them out for you, after consulting Dick on strong-arm methods.

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Thanks for that post Mike. I'm very much interested in this.

Another version of Chess King is on eBay. I'll try to get it, as long as the price stays low.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5190634794

Based on Steffen's previous post I think this one is less common than the one I just got.
Notice how the seller stays it's the "world's smallest chess computer" when that's not accurate.
The Fidelity Chess Card and the Sphinx Chesscard are the smallest ones.

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Re:Chess King - Handheld - any info?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2005, 06:09AM »
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Further to the question of who made chess computers, and particularly those from the Far East, I received a Computachess II the other day :-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5186018915&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

It is an unremarkable, even dull machine. One of the first attributed to CXG/Newcrest Technology. Made in 1982, hence my interest.

The front of the box says CXG 002.
The back of the box says - Manufactured by Newcrest Technology Ltd, but there is also a sticker which says Made in China.
The manual says that the program in the chess computer is the copyright of White and Allcock Ltd. (David Levy?)

So Hong Kong companies were already outsourcing some manufacturing to China, even at that time. Something that has increased greatly in recent times.

I have found various chess computers designed in Britain e.g Intelligent Chess, Novag Super System III and Scisys Chess Champion Mark V. Many were programmed by Britons notably Richard Lang and David Levy. Even more were distributed from Britain. But I have yet to find a single chess computer which was actually made in Britain.

The search continues.

Mike

BTW - CXG 001 is the "Sensor Computachess", made in 1981. It is the same machine as the "Computachess" (USA - wrongly attributed by some to White and Allcock) and the Eureka and Systema badged "Computachess" versions (UK) and no doubt other clones.

For CXG the list goes something like this :-

001 - Sensor Computachess (1981)
002 - Computachess II (1982)
003 - ?
004 - Galaxy Mark VI (Kurts site - dubious?)
005 - ?
006 - Advanced Computachess
007 - ?
008 - Computachess III
009 - Super Computachess

Can anyone fill in the blanks please?


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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2005, 04:19AM »
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How about your progress in the CyberChess?

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Hi Steffen

Then you did not get my message earlier in this thread? See over half way down it. I need your home address to send them to you.

All the best
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2005, 03:46AM »
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HI Mikey,

I´m pretty sure that Chess King was a U.K.-based company. The guy who had sold both the Philidor and the Chess King to had mentioned that.
Sorry that I can´t post photos of them, my PC is too bad for this (5 years old).

How about your progress in the CyberChess?

Best,
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2005, 07:30PM »
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That raises a question: Do we have a complete list of all companies that have produced (even a licensed clone, or not) at least 1 chess computer? I haven't seen that around.

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Quote from: Ismenio on April 20, 2005, 04:44PM   

Thanks for the reply Mike. I'm embarrassed now! I had to read your post and look at my own pictures to see the CGL right in front of me!
I was heading back to Tom's page to check his units when I read your message.

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If you look at the Chess King Pocket Micro photo amongst Steve's pictures you will see that it does not mention CGL.

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41724fb6z87a8eebb/f650/__sr_/2020.jpg?phdnLaCBWmp3EqKn

I think that "Chess King" is probably a name used by a Hong Kong company and Computer Games Limited is a British distributor. The company that actually made it is anyones guess. I find it difficult to believe that anything like this was made in Britain in the 1980s.

Sometimes you will see other references to British companies - Eureka, Systema and Acetronic. I do not believe that any of them manufactured either. Being a colony at the time there was a lot of British investment in Hong Kong and that is where a lot of these handhelds were made.

Does anyone know who made Chess Kings?

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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2005, 07:11AM »
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Ok as mentioned on the other thread this is the review of the Chess King Micro by Michael Basman (IM) December 1983.

The Chess King Micro: This is a dear little computer. It has a folding pocket board, magnetic, over which you move the pieces; you key in the moves. The play is fairly trivial, on four levels, it hits about grade 60 at top. (this is 60 BCF which is about 1080 Elo). That means that it certainly cannot see mates in two coming and makes "higher material errors", though it does not leave pieces en prise. It cannot work through a capture sequence on one square leading to a loss of material for it. It sells at around £32. Recommended for novices.

BTW he reviews these others :-

Fidelity Mini Sensory £50
Portachess (CGL) £40
Computachess II (CGL) £60
Advanced Computachess (Eureka) £35
Computachess (Eureka) £30
Novag Micro II £40
Scisys Travel Mate £20
Scisys Travel Sensor Chess £45
Scisys Explorer £?

He is complimentary about the playing strength of the Scisys Explorer which was mentioned by Bernhard a while back in connection with Kaare Danielsen.

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Quote from: Mike Watters on April 21, 2005, 05:49AM   

Hi Tom good to see you have joined the "mad-house".

All I will say about Ebay IDs is that you should watch out for a seller of Tasc goods.

Which reminds me. Christian if you have a spare interface when the package finally arrives please can you let me know?

All the best
Mike


Mike,

your request will be granted if it is in my power
The package left the USA at the beginning of this week, but US Postal service garantees delivery within 4-10 days ...so maybe I have to wait another week.
But there is an advantage: There is more time to assemble my tools

Maybe there is soon a sparky Smartboard for sale...

Sincerely

Christian
Thanks Christian.

Let the sparks fly.

Pass the sledgehammer, Nurse.

Beste Grüsse
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Hi Tom good to see you have joined the "mad-house".

All I will say about Ebay IDs is that you should watch out for a seller of Tasc goods.

Which reminds me. Christian if you have a spare interface when the package finally arrives please can you let me know?

All the best
Mike


Mike,

your request will be granted if it is in my power
The package left the USA at the beginning of this week, but US Postal service garantees delivery within 4-10 days ...so maybe I have to wait another week.
But there is an advantage: There is more time to assemble my tools

Maybe there is soon a sparky Smartboard for sale...

Sincerely

Christian
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Hi Tom good to see you have joined the "mad-house".

All I will say about Ebay IDs is that you should watch out for a seller of Tasc goods.

Which reminds me. Christian if you have a spare interface when the package finally arrives please can you let me know?

All the best
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Quote from: Overtom on April 21, 2005, 05:29AM   


Quote from: Endspielgott on April 21, 2005, 05:19AM   

I once made the fault to plug the power supply of my Turniermaschine in the socket (wall) first, and than connected the other end of the cable with the computer. A shower of sparks rained on me ...

That was when I thought of selling this device...


Please reveal your eBay alias and I'll know which sellers to avoid


Well it is identical with the first part of my email adress....
easy to find out for wise and careful buyers

But: I do not sell stuff very often.

C

P.S. The buyer of the Turniermaschine did not hunt me down
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Quote from: Endspielgott on April 21, 2005, 05:19AM   

I once made the fault to plug the power supply of my Turniermaschine in the socket (wall) first, and than connected the other end of the cable with the computer. A shower of sparks rained on me ...

That was when I thought of selling this device...


Please reveal your eBay alias and I'll know which sellers to avoid
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