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Re:Super Expert C - 4 ply selective
« on: December 18, 2006, 11:41PM »
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With your statistic provided, what is the approx. ELO rating difference will that be?  Do you have a formula to calucate that?  Or anyone?

Sorry, but i don't have any experience with select 4, as i usually don't play with >3mins.

I can remember, that there were users reporting, that sel 5 should be better on tournament level! And the SSDF used also sel 5 for their tests!

But maybe Stefan Ottow can tell us more; he is our Novag specialist! In his Wiki article about the Super Expert C he claims, that the discussion about this topic is not yet finished!

Regarding all this, i would say, that the difference should be rather small...


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Re:Super Expert C - 4 ply selective
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2006, 08:44AM »
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[quote author=Robert Weck In the addendum for the B+C program Novag suggests the following settings: for >3 mins select 4, for <3mins select 3. For infinite (analysis) from select 3 to 5.

But all in all the strength with "Ext on" seems to be slightly higher (40 games against the Atlanta, same openings with changed colors after the first 20 games; with ext off 6,5:13,5; ext on 8:12)



Thanks for the info Robert.

I do notice when the SE played head to head to another computer.  The Selective 4 does win more.

With your statistic provided, what is the approx. ELO rating difference will that be?  Do you have a formula to calucate that?  Or anyone?

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Re:Super Expert C - 4 ply selective
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 02:22AM »
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Hello Chest-Nut,


Quote from: Chest-Nut on December 16, 2006, 10:23AM   

Does anyone have any info of the playing strength of the Novag Super Expert C 6 Mhz 4 ply selective?  I seen a few places have the ELO rating on 5 ply selective, but not 4 selective or 3 selective.  From my experience, I feel the 4 selective is a lot stronger than 5 selective.  If someone have such info on 4 selective and 3 selective, it would be great.

In the addendum for the B+C program Novag suggests the following settings: for >3 mins select 4, for <3mins select 3. For infinite (analysis) from select 3 to 5.


But a subjective feeling might not always be right:

I made the following experience with my Star Sapphire:

with "Extensions on" (similar to the select levels of the Super Forte/Expert) it sometimes made blunders, which it did not with "Extensions off". But all in all the strength with "Ext on" seems to be slightly higher (40 games against the Atlanta, same openings with changed colors after the first 20 games; with ext off 6,5:13,5; ext on 8:12)


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Does anyone have any info of the playing strength of the Novag Super Expert C 6 Mhz 4 ply selective?  I seen a few places have the ELO rating on 5 ply selective, but not 4 selective or 3 selective.  From my experience, I feel the 4 selective is a lot stronger than 5 selective.  If someone have such info on 4 selective and 3 selective, it would be great.

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