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Re:Excalibur Phantom Force - 7 Weeks !!
« Reply #120 on: July 12, 2007, 02:23PM »
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Most of the Excalibur market is in North America.

Sorry for Alain (and myself), but I think that the French voice is for the Canadian market, where a significant amount of people refuse to speak english.

Spanish is of course mandatory in North America (a lot more than French).

Am I wrong ?
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« Reply #121 on: July 12, 2007, 02:32AM »
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Quote from: TurboKing on July 11, 2007, 05:11PM   

French is an international language and German is not.

you are right, but the question for a manufacturer should be: Are more German-only or French-only people interested in my computers?

And i think, that the German-speaking chess computer market should be bigger than the French-speaking...

Maybe Excalibur's market in Germany is too small for them; they really are outsiders here! (no wonder, when you see the garbage, they are mostly selling! (except GM and DTTC/Alexandra The Great))

But i think, with a good marketing, they could sell a lot of these machines in German-tongued countries; as a robot, it is something special and many people might have been waiting for something like that.

I am not so sure, that it was a good idea, to forget German...


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« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2007, 05:11PM »
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Quote from: Mephisto on July 11, 2007, 07:03AM   

Hi Mike
Yes it is very strange why Excalibur decided on French (sorry Alain) instead of German.
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Hello
French is an international language and German is not.
German is only spoken in several  european countries and that's all .
So I guess that is was logical to chose French instead of German ;and also English and Spanish as three of the main international languages.

So as to the EPF , what is its rating ?
It looks like a travel chess computer  but its features make it really worth buying it provided that it does play good chess.
If it's over 1900 elo I will buy it

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« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2007, 11:56AM »
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Quote from: Alain Zanchetta on July 11, 2007, 10:34AM   




you probably just have to read another thread of today...

Alain


Of course silly me. How could I possibly have missed that thread.
Wow now thats NEWS.
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« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2007, 11:05AM »
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While I think it's good to have a new dedicated chesscomputer and I guess I am going to buy this one as soon as it is available, I am afraid the mechanics will be the same as in the Excalibur Mirage which was reportedly not very reliable. Why do I think so? If you look at the positions of the pieces on the left and right side of the board, they seem to be in the same order as on the Mirage which is different from the Phantom.
Besides that: Does anybody now more about the MarineBlue project, an affordable chess robot? There is a report about it on the Internet:
www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/cwis/research/distrinet/resources/publications/40821.pdf

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« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2007, 10:40AM »
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Hi Bryan,


Quote from: Mephisto on July 11, 2007, 07:03AM   

Yes it is very strange why Excalibur decided on French (sorry Alain) instead of German.

no, it no strange at all : German people speak English a lot better than French people 
Read any study about tourism in Paris : one of the most frequent complain of tourists is that people in France only speak French 
And if all German chess lovers speak French as Christian does, a French speaking computer is not a problem for them 

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« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2007, 10:34AM »
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Quote from: goldorak on July 11, 2007, 10:05AM   


Quote from: Mephisto on July 11, 2007, 07:03AM   

PS.....interesting news about Saitek


Care to elaborate on this ? 
Do you have some insider info you would care to share with us ? 

you probably just have to read another thread of today...

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« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2007, 10:05AM »
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Quote from: Mephisto on July 11, 2007, 07:03AM   

PS.....interesting news about Saitek


Care to elaborate on this ? 
Do you have some insider info you would care to share with us ? 
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« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2007, 07:03AM »
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Hi Mike
Yes it is very strange why Excalibur decided on French (sorry Alain) instead of German.
I also think that with the increased interest in chess in China, they should have possibly also included Chinese voice which would have been quite amusing.
As to my previous post, there where some inaccuracies so I decided to abort it.
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PS.....interesting news about Saitek
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Re:Excalibur Phantom Force - 7 Weeks !!
« Reply #129 on: July 11, 2007, 05:54AM »
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Hi Bryan

I was going to reply to a message of yours and it just disappeared into the ether. 


BTW you can't seem to order one of these from Excalibur's website unless you are in the USA? I emailed Excalibur to find out where you could buy one, but with predictable non result.

They seem to have missed a trick by not including German in the languages it speaks.

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« Reply #130 on: July 11, 2007, 04:59AM »
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Well done Mike, brilliant
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« Reply #131 on: July 11, 2007, 02:44AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on July 11, 2007, 01:36AM   

Yes I am with you on this one Robert.

Have you seen the Boyracer Travel version?


                 



Perhaps Bryan is working on one of these right now?

All the best
Mike


very good!!


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« Reply #132 on: July 11, 2007, 01:36AM »
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I prefer the new design...

For me the old Phantom was too bulky! The PF looks more modern and slimmer...

And i hope, it will become smaller overall than the old Phantom!


Just my opinion...
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Yes I am with you on this one Robert.

Have you seen the Boyracer Travel version?


                 



Perhaps Bryan is working on one of these right now?

All the best
Mike
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« Reply #133 on: July 11, 2007, 12:36AM »
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Quote from: goldorak on July 10, 2007, 04:36PM   

The only crtiic for this new phantom is purely esthetic. Why is the old model (MB or Fidelity) much nicer ?

I prefer the new design...

For me the old Phantom was too bulky! The PF looks more modern and slimmer...

And i hope, it will become smaller overall than the old Phantom!


Just my opinion...
Robert
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« Reply #134 on: July 10, 2007, 04:36PM »
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Quote from: bobosse on July  9, 2007, 10:22AM   

unfortunatly, the only European place where you can order is...
City of Vatican 


I think it will also be available in some german shops 
Between this phantom and the novag citrine does it seem like a little revival of dedicated computer chess is in act ? This is a very good thing.
Now only saitek is missing, wondering what product will they release ? Or maybe nothing at all.

The only crtiic for this new phantom is purely esthetic. Why is the old model (MB or Fidelity) much nicer ?
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« Reply #135 on: July 9, 2007, 10:22AM »
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unfortunatly, the only European place where you can order is...
City of Vatican 
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« Reply #136 on: July 9, 2007, 09:06AM »
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Very , very, very good news 

I hope that it will be possible to buy it in Europe for a fair price (not 1$=1€...) ...
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« Reply #137 on: July 9, 2007, 08:55AM »
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Does anyone have any idea as to the program this program will sport?
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« Reply #138 on: July 9, 2007, 04:53AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on July  9, 2007, 03:02AM   


                                      Can it be true?

Optimistic regards
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Very nice new features !!! Talks in several languages, matrix display with contrast and a logic price. 
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« Reply #139 on: July 9, 2007, 03:02AM »
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http://www.excaliburelectronics.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EXC2&Product_Code=740-D&Category_Code=ECHESS&Product_Count=35

Can it be true?

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