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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« on: September 22, 2008, 05:13PM »
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Quote from: mychess on September 21, 2008, 11:25AM   

Hello, World!

If CC MK I do not verify if the move is legal, why you don't play and mate in 1 with Pawn (a-h)2 x e8 # (or Nb1xd8#...)?
If it doesn't detect the disparition of its king, you can make pat with any game in playing your piece and take YOUR king ;-)

Could you try this ?

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Hello Mychess,

I tried capturing the King with a pawn as you suggested but the MK I just responds with "E7 E5" and continues to play like nothing happened! Taking my own king didn't seem to effect the play either! I guess the King must be  properly mated even with the illegal moves. Thanks for asking.

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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2008, 06:48AM »
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Quote from: mychess on September 21, 2008, 11:25AM   

Hello, World!

If CC MK I do not verify if the move is legal, why you don't play and mate in 1 with Pawn (a-h)2 x e8 # (or Nb1xd8#...)?
If it doesn't detect the disparition of its king, you can make pat with any game in playing your piece and take YOUR king ;-)

Could you try this ?

Good night.

Mychess
It's not completely clear to me why anyone would call this checkmate

When the king has disappeared, it can't be in check, or can it?

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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 07:08PM »
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Hi Everyone,

Here is the shortest game that I have had the opportunity to observe between 2 U1400 Chess Computers playing at 30 seconds per move. This is about the shotest game I have seen sofar between computers in the similar strength category.

[Event "U1400 Green Stage 1 Group N"]
[Site "Active Chess 0:30/1"]
[Date "2008.05.31"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Systema Computachess, LV 8."]
[Black "Excalibur Viper, LV C5."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C40"]
[WhiteElo "1200"]
[BlackElo "1300"]
[Annotator "Mind,Spacious"]
[PlyCount "12"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
[EventType "tourn (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "18"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[EventCategory "6"]

{Systema Computachess has no book} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 {Excalibur Viper out of book
} d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe5 Qd4 5. f4 Bc5 6. Nb5 Qf2# 0-1

6 Moves !! Not bad I think.

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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 11:25AM »
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Hello, World!

If CC MK I do not verify if the move is legal, why you don't play and mate in 1 with Pawn (a-h)2 x e8 # (or Nb1xd8#...)?
If it doesn't detect the disparition of its king, you can make pat with any game in playing your piece and take YOUR king ;-)

Could you try this ?

Good night.

Mychess


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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 10:17AM »
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Quote from: Overtom on September  9, 2008, 12:22AM   

I don't want to spoil the fun, but the shortest win against a chess computer was played in March 1980 by Dutch chess player and writer Tim Krabbé.

The game went like this: 1. Qd1xh8  Ng8-f6 (the knight was attacked) 2. Nb1xg7+ checkmate!

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P.S. I should mention that this was played on Chess Champion mk. 1, a computer that allows illegal moves




I confirmed this result on my JS&A MK I. Note that the Level needs to be 2 or above. Level 1 plays "E7 E5" after "D1 H8". Duh.

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 09:56AM »
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Quote from: Overtom on September  9, 2008, 12:22AM   

I don't want to spoil the fun, but the shortest win against a chess computer was played in March 1980 by Dutch chess player and writer Tim Krabbé.

The game went like this: 1. Qd1xh8  Ng8-f6 (the knight was attacked) 2. Nb1xg7+ checkmate!

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tom

P.S. I should mention that this was played on Chess Champion mk. 1, a computer that allows illegal moves


Thanks Tom, anyone know of the shortest game with legal moves?

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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« Reply #6 on: September 9, 2008, 12:22AM »
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I don't want to spoil the fun, but the shortest win against a chess computer was played in March 1980 by Dutch chess player and writer Tim Krabbé.

The game went like this: 1. Qd1xh8  Ng8-f6 (the knight was attacked) 2. Nb1xg7+ checkmate!



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P.S. I should mention that this was played on Chess Champion mk. 1, a computer that allows illegal moves

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« Reply #7 on: September 5, 2008, 01:01AM »
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Quote from: bobosse on September  4, 2008, 01:45PM   

Ok, it's the lower level but without cheating, this is a game I won in 5 moves against the Mephisto Solar Star.

http://electronicchess.free.fr/parties/solarstar3.html

It's not far from the shortest possible victory that is in 4 moves.



Hi bobosse,

Nice game, 4 moves may be the shortest victory against the SolarStar but, as you may know,  the Fool's mate, also known as the "two-move checkmate," is the quickest possible checkmate. One example consists of the moves

    1. f3 e5
    2. g4 Qh4#

I don't know if any chess computer has ever played this.

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I did not knew the fool's mate.
I need to learn chess theory 

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Quote from: bobosse on September  4, 2008, 01:45PM   

Ok, it's the lower level but without cheating, this is a game I won in 5 moves against the Mephisto Solar Star.

http://electronicchess.free.fr/parties/solarstar3.html

It's not far from the shortest possible victory that is in 4 moves.



Hi bobosse,

Nice game, 4 moves may be the shortest victory against the SolarStar but, as you may know,  the Fool's mate, also known as the "two-move checkmate," is the quickest possible checkmate. One example consists of the moves

    1. f3 e5
    2. g4 Qh4#

I don't know if any chess computer has ever played this.

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Re:the shortest game against a chess computer
« Reply #9 on: September 4, 2008, 09:29PM »
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But at the lower level in Solar Mode, it can not play a single good move.  At higher level in Solar Mode, it is still weak but is acceptable for beginners.
http://electronicchess.free.fr/parties/solarstar2.html


A nice game, Bobosse. Pretty everyday's chess as people could have played it anywhere. I like the marching of the pawns and the attacks against the kings on both sides.
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Ok, it's the lower level but without cheating, this is a game I won in 5 moves against the Mephisto Solar Star.

http://electronicchess.free.fr/parties/solarstar3.html

It's not far from the shortest possible victory that is in 4 moves.

Good point, it was only using solar energy...

But at the lower level in Solar Mode, it can not play a single good move.  At higher level in Solar Mode, it is still weak but is acceptable for beginners.
http://electronicchess.free.fr/parties/solarstar2.html
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