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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« on: December 6, 2008, 03:44AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on December  5, 2008, 12:10PM   


The answer to the supplementary question "What accessory was sold with the Gakken to get the best out of it?" is not exactly impressive.  It is this little bit of metal.






CLEARLY the rarest piece of scrap metal in schachcomputer history
Adjusting my search list regards
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #1 on: December 5, 2008, 12:10PM »
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Ok, the Chess King Pocket Micro De Luxe for JB and the Mini Sensory Mk II for Robert. I may have your addresses somewhere but please could you email me, just in case I send them to the wrong place.

The answer to the supplementary question "What accessory was sold with the Gakken to get the best out of it?" is not exactly impressive.  It is this little bit of metal.



Tuning my Mercedes regards
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #2 on: December 2, 2008, 11:12PM »
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Lastly a supplementary quiz question. What accessory was sold with the Gakken to get the best out of it?




Maybe a booklet to learn chess ?
Or a Mercedes 500 SL (from 1992) ?
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #3 on: December 2, 2008, 10:54PM »
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They are both very sporting and joint winners as far as I'm concerned. So the Mini Sensory II is Robert's if he wants it, and JB can take his pick if the humble list contains anything he wants.

Ok, I am interested in the Chess King Pocket Micro De Luxe even if it is not in working conditions.

JB
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #4 on: December 2, 2008, 12:33PM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on December  2, 2008, 06:43AM   

Would a Mercedes Benz Gakken be rare?

Lastly a supplementary quiz question. What accessory was sold with the Gakken to get the best out of it?

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OH YES
a Merc Gakken would surely find its way into the hallowed halls of the Ultra Rare collection if i had one

an add-on to the Gakken??

I'm all ears Regards
Steve
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #5 on: December 2, 2008, 07:51AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on December  2, 2008, 06:43AM   

I have an email from JB saying Robert is the winner, and a post from Robert saying JB is the winner !!

so it's a draw...

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They are both very sporting and joint winners as far as I'm concerned. So the Mini Sensory II is Robert's if he wants it, and JB can take his pick if the humble list contains anything he wants.

Thank you, very generous, Mike! If JB takes a pick, then i will be happy with the MS II (but only if he takes one!)

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Late 1983 did not seem to match the design or technology, lithium batteries in particular.

I did not know about lithium batteries, but I too had my doubts about the two chips mounted in SMD technology; reading in the Wikipedia showed, that this technology was widely spread since mid 80-ies, so 1983 seems at least unlikely (but not impossible)


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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #6 on: December 2, 2008, 06:43AM »
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I have an email from JB saying Robert is the winner, and a post from Robert saying JB is the winner !!

They are both very sporting and joint winners as far as I'm concerned. So the Mini Sensory II is Robert's if he wants it, and JB can take his pick if the humble list contains anything he wants.

JB also directed me to Hein's website on the question of the Gakken's year of release.

http://www.schaakcomputers.nl/hein_veldhuis/database/

Late 1983 did not seem to match the design or technology, lithium batteries in particular. Opening up the Gakken does not give any help. Well it did not for me at least.



There is a clue on the machine though, which says patent pending. So I looked for a patent and came across this.

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=JP&NR=4028390A&KC=A&FT=D&date=19920130&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_V3

The application date is 30th January 1992. So the Gakken goes down on the Timeline as 1992. Hopefully that is correct.

Steve, sometimes you give the impression that you might buy a car to get a chess computer.
What about an Indian Tata Nano for an Omikron Bogol 5.0? 
Would a Mercedes Benz Gakken be rare?

Lastly a supplementary quiz question. What accessory was sold with the Gakken to get the best out of it?

All the best
Mike
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #7 on: December 1, 2008, 03:46AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on November 29, 2008, 06:47PM   

Robert was correct and the quickest but JB got the name of the model as well, as per the rules. Congratulations both, but do I cut the chess computer in half, devise a tie-break, opt for one of you or declare both winners?

I have no problem, leaving the price to somebody else!  (as i already have all of your doubles except the Fidelity Mini Sensory Second Version )

Congrats to JB! (whose answer was complete)


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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 11:54AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on November 29, 2008, 06:47PM   

As for the Mercedes model I shall go for the new C-Class at the end of the 90s. 
Now tell me the facts Steve and I might have a Timeline year for the Gakken.


Sorry Mike
i have no clue what Merc the computer was given away free in
dont you hate it when someone asks a question and they dont have the answer?


i do remember seeing the computer in an old Merc Catalogue though and i remember it saying that it was included in the Glove compartment of certain Merc Series cars
as for me...i spend far too much money on our addictive hobby to ride around town in a Merc
Volkswagen Regards
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 02:27AM »
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hello, here are the pictures of the box of Gakken

before

rear


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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 06:47PM »
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Well Done all.
Was it too easy?

Now this is tricky. The rules said manufacturer and name of chess computer and country of origin.

The answer is Gakken, Computer Chess Game (or Computer Game Chess), Japan. I think that it is probably the only chess computer made in Japan, though there may be some of those horrible handheld LCD games made since?



Robert was correct and the quickest but JB got the name of the model as well, as per the rules. Congratulations both, but do I cut the chess computer in half, devise a tie-break, opt for one of you or declare both winners?

Putting up a list of chess computers to chose from has been tricky, as every other one I touch at the moment seems to develop a fault.

The doubles list is not very long but includes -
Fidelity Mini Sensory
Fidelity Mini Sensory Second Version
Novag Printer
and if they are still working
Chess King Pocket Micro De Luxe
CXG Portachess
Scisys Chess Companion II
Saitek Chess Shadow
More useful may be a Novag Printer interface cable?

As for the Mercedes model I shall go for the new C-Class at the end of the 90s. 
Now tell me the facts Steve and I might have a Timeline year for the Gakken.

Stalling regards
Mike

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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 12:25AM »
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Actually guys..
this computer was released in three versions:
Radio Shack 1100L:(which i think was the first version)


Micro Games Chess Master:


and the Gakken

Mikes Mystery computer was the same as the above three with the Merc name added and offered by Mercedes Benz in one of their auto-accessories gift catalogues
now the real million dollar question is..
in what Mercedes Auto was the computer included as a free gift??

Hmmm Regards
Steve
PS..i think Robert wins because he was the first to basically name the correct computer
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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2008, 08:17PM »
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the competition. Here is my guess:

Name of manufacturer: Gakken Company

Name of chess computer: "Pocket Chess"

Country of origin:  China

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Re:Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2008, 02:36PM »
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It looks like a Gakken Computer Game Chess.
It's from Japan.

But there may be something else on the box, because it was distributed by different kind of companies in the world (Lansay for France).

And of course, I do not have information on the "mercedez benz" logo. Just a guess for fun: Maybe for an anniversary event ? (110 years of first benz car ? It makes 1996)

Note that it also may be a Tandy Pocket Chess 1100L (See Overtom web site).

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 05:52AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on November 26, 2008, 04:45AM   

Hi All

It is a while since we had a competition. Have a go with this one, there's nothing to lose. A wild guess could win.

Prize: A working chess computer from the doubles I have. Delivered to your door.

Rules: One guess per member, first one to correctly guess the name of the manufacturer and chess computer (not Mercedes Benz ) which is on the machine and box, plus the country of origin, wins the prize.

Hmm, could be a Gakken from Japan?


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Competition : Guess the chess computer
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2008, 04:45AM »
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Hi All

It is a while since we had a competition. Have a go with this one, there's nothing to lose. A wild guess could win.

Prize: A working chess computer from the doubles I have. Delivered to your door.

Rules: One guess per member, first one to correctly guess the name of the manufacturer and chess computer (not Mercedes Benz ) which is on the machine and box, plus the country of origin, wins the prize. If not won then the closest geographical guess to the country of origin wins.

You must be a registered member. If not then join up it is easy.

This is it -



Good luck


PS I will post the choice of prizes by the weekend, but there are some nice ones so get guessing.
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