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« on: August 23, 2005, 12:39PM »
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I was tempted to join in on the bidding for that one but having watched Ismenios video of his 'eyeball' in action..... "Hi,  How about a nice game of chess ?" and rolling about the floor laughing  i just have to have that model.

Someone sell me one !!!   
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2005, 12:32PM »
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Well the latest Phantom 6100 just made $810 with four different people bidding over $500.

No sign of lessening demand there! The Phantom market is just different I think. 

Looks like still a good time to sell one Ismenio. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 06:47PM »
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Hmmm... very interesting stuff guys! 
I wonder what his response would be if one were to ask him if he would be OK in using an eBay approved escrow service!

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 07:58AM »
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I had inferred that he might not actually own a Phantom of his own and that I suspected his auction was truly a *phantom* auction.

I might have been wrong about that. 

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Well you might turn out to have been wrong, but you may still be right. The fact that this seller still has a misleading picture in the listing does not bode well. Add to that a +2 -1 feedback? You did everyone a favour in asking him the question.

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 03:29AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on July 13, 2005, 11:40PM   


Quote from: Mike Watters on July 11, 2005, 02:19AM   

Well the heat has eventually gone out of the Phantom market in the USA. This one, which failed to sell at a higher price, only attracted one bid at a starting price of $325.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5215687517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I would think that Phantoms will be staying in closets and attics for a while, rather than appearing on Ebay.

No sooner had I written this than another two Phantoms appear on Ebay.

This would be a good time to buy a Phantom but at least one of the auctions :-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219363574&fromMakeTrack=true

is a worry as it now shows pictures of two different machines. One a borrowed picture from the above mentioned auction ( the green/black/white Phantom ) and one the real item, a gold/black Phantom we are led to believe. That anyone should put up a picture of a different coloured machine and not expect problems from a buyer takes some swallowing. But the second picture may well be genuine. What do you think?

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Mike, when this auction first hit eBay the only picture it showed was one of John Dutton's from an earlier auction.  It was of the green lettered Phantom that he used to sell several of them, one to Ismenio.  Since the seller only had a feedback of one, I emailed him and asked why he "stole" a picture from a previous auction.  He replied that it was easier than taking his own, but that since the picture was different that the Phantom he had, he would take another picture of his.

I had inferred that he might not actually own a Phantom of his own and that I suspected his auction was truly a *phantom* auction.

I might have been wrong about that. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2005, 11:40PM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on July 11, 2005, 02:19AM   

Well the heat has eventually gone out of the Phantom market in the USA. This one, which failed to sell at a higher price, only attracted one bid at a starting price of $325.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5215687517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I would think that Phantoms will be staying in closets and attics for a while, rather than appearing on Ebay.

No sooner had I written this than another two Phantoms appear on Ebay.

This would be a good time to buy a Phantom but at least one of the auctions :-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219363574&fromMakeTrack=true

is a worry as it now shows pictures of two different machines. One a borrowed picture from the above mentioned auction ( the green/black/white Phantom ) and one the real item, a gold/black Phantom we are led to believe. That anyone should put up a picture of a different coloured machine and not expect problems from a buyer takes some swallowing. But the second picture may well be genuine. What do you think?

Mike
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2005, 05:49AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on July 11, 2005, 04:48AM   

I am again having some problems with translation. Can anyone help with these two words that were not translated by AltaVista?


Nichtschachspielern=non-chessplayers!
ramponiert I would translate it as "slightly damaged" (the Langenscheidt online-dictionary says: "battered")


hth,
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2005, 04:48AM »
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I had the same thought Mike. And to think that not too long ago we saw some being sold for $1000!

By the way Mike, sorry I forgot to answer your question on the defective Phantom I returned. The problem was that it just wouldn't turn on at all! No sign of life on the display or any noise that would indicate something was alive. I know it wasn't the power supply as I tested with one of mine.
Of course I couldn't open it to see if it was something simple I could fix and I was kind of hoping the seller would offer a discount but that didn't happen

I am again having some problems with translation. Can anyone help with these two words that were not translated by AltaVista?


Even with Nichtschachspielern it causes enthusiasm! As a favourite of children he is to be gotten mostly only strongly ramponiert, if at all still.


Original text:
Selbst bei Nichtschachspielern ruft er Begeisterung hervor! Als Liebling von Kindern ist er meistens nur stark ramponiert zu bekommen, falls überhaupt noch.


On a side note, the Germans seems to put great information on their auctions! Sometimes I like to read them just for the tid bits I find in the text

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2005, 02:19AM »
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Well the heat has eventually gone out of the Phantom market in the USA. This one, which failed to sell at a higher price, only attracted one bid at a starting price of $325.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5215687517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I would think that Phantoms will be staying in closets and attics for a while, rather than appearing on Ebay.

Meanwhile on this side of the pond where there are less Phantoms they are still selling well. On Saturday a Mephisto Phantom sold for 505 Euros in Germany.

There is also still a healthy demand for Milton Bradleys. This one is up to 411 Euros with a few hours to run. But is it a MB Milton or a MB Phantom?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5214927898&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2005, 04:09AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on May 11, 2005, 12:28AM   


I shall not be bothering to pay big money for something which is actually inferior to the 6126, however rare.

Mike


Mike,

Do you mean like those useless Fidelity CC1's. 

I agree totally with you. 

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2005, 12:28AM »
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PS: I guess 2005 is to be called "The Year of The Phantoms!" I don't even think we can call them rarities!
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I agree that Phantom 6100s are not rarities, there are just too many of them around. Freed from closets now that folk realise that they are worth selling thanks to some high prices paid.

6126s are still pretty difficult to find. If there were a lot of them out there we would have seen more in view of the hefty prices paid. The only virtue of 6124s over the 6126s is that they are even rarer. Definitely hard-core collecting fodder. I shall not be bothering to pay big money for something which is actually inferior to the 6126, however rare.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2005, 07:41PM »
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No way am I competing with you and Dick!
This one was just so I can have a complete yellow Phantom and the dust cover for the Eyeball. The computer will be available for trading and I'm done with Phantoms! So, for those whom I've outbid (if you're reading this), I apologize and you can rest assured I won't be after the other two that are out there right now.

I would only be tempted if a working 6124 were to be listed but I have other priorities now!

Also, I really don't have more space for them!

Ismenio

PS: I guess 2005 is to be called "The Year of The Phantoms!" I don't even think we can call them rarities!
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Quote from: Ismenio on May  9, 2005, 06:09PM   

OK I did it I got another one. The packaging and the dust cover... couldn't resist! But I should have!!!
Well, maybe I'll have something to bargain with Christian soon!

To be honest I'm a litle surprise only 3 people bid on this one!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5193944403

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Congratulations Ismenio. That must be about the cheapest and one of the best to come up on Ebay.
A few people are going to be scratching their heads and wondering how come they paid so much.

You aren't trying to get on the 2005 Bargain podium are you?

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« Reply #13 on: May 9, 2005, 09:53PM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on May  9, 2005, 06:09PM   

OK I did it I got another one. The packaging and the dust cover... couldn't resist! But I should have!!!
Well, maybe I'll have something to bargain with Christian soon!

Ismenio


Ismenio,

do you think it is possible to upgrade one of these machines in a way this Bucke guy does it with the Fidelity AG?

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OK I did it I got another one. The packaging and the dust cover... couldn't resist! But I should have!!!
Well, maybe I'll have something to bargain with Christian soon!

To be honest I'm a litle surprise only 3 people bid on this one!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5193944403

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« Reply #15 on: May 8, 2005, 11:43PM »
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A joint venture? Why not? You are all very busy talking about your phantoms...maybe I am really missing something there?

Being tempted regards.

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« Reply #16 on: May 8, 2005, 03:19PM »
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Interesting! How many to we have right now? 3? It makes sense that the other two started at around $300 so because of that I can see how I would not go for his.

Makes you think about that recent one which was sold for over $900 I believe.

I say keep them coming! The more, the merrier
I am tempted to go for the one with the dust cover, but just because of the cover. I don't really need another Phantom... I think, so if anyone wants a joint venture here let me know!

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« Reply #17 on: May 8, 2005, 03:09PM »
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The $600 one, with the Volvo, did not attract a bid. So it has been relisted at $300 :-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5195222940&fromMakeTrack=true

Has the Phantom bubble burst? 

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« Reply #18 on: May 8, 2005, 12:52AM »
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It goes without saying that there is another Phantom on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2554&item=5194964864&rd=1

There are other photographs in the listing but my favourite piccie is this one. http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/07/6f/4c_1.JPG

In other circumstances it could have provided the clue in another spot the chess computer competition. This seller (John Graham) manages it again with this offering. http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/07/6f/ab_1.JPG
(a Simultano). I think Ismenio would have guessed that one.

Has someone been tampering with the brightness control on my monitor?

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« Reply #19 on: May 5, 2005, 05:06AM »
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I just cannot understand the current high prices of Phantoms. It is not as if anyone is hyping them up is it?

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