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« on: April 1, 2009, 03:26PM »
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Quote from: montana on March 30, 2009, 10:43AM   


Thanks for your reply.  I have ordered the Citrine and am now waiting anxiously




Hi montana,

The ChessHouse has a nice intro video on the Citrine:

http://www.chesshouse.com/Novag_Citrine_Advanced_Wooden_Chess_Computer_p/b1032.htm

Enjoy,
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 11:04AM »
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[quote author=Robert Weck Also to keep in mind:

Contrary to the Master and Grandmaster, the Citrine cannot be used with batteries.


hope, this helps!
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Yeah, thanks for reminding me... I noticed the Citrine cant be played with batteries alone.  This is certainly a negative but I ordered the machine anyway.

Thanks again and I want to thank all of you guys that took the time to answer my inquiry about buying my first satnd alone (as opposed to a PC program) machine.

You are a bunch of nifty palyers I am glad I found this site.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 10:43AM »
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Quote from: montana on March 26, 2009, 01:38PM   

Am rated 'bout 1400 and that was a couple of years ago so I am not going to give any chess program much of problem.




Since it will be your first stand alone unit, if I were you, I will go for the Citrine.  You will not be disappointed compare to the Master and Grandmaster.  I own all three along with many others.  Citrine is my top 2 choices in term of playing and definitely on top of the Master and GM.  Master is too small, and the GM don't have light on the square and you will need to read the notation on the display to know where it's move.

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Thanks for your reply.  I have ordered the Citrine and am now waiting anxiously

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 01:27AM »
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Since it will be your first stand alone unit, if I were you, I will go for the Citrine.  You will not be disappointed compare to the Master and Grandmaster. 

I fully agree with 1chessnut! It is much more comfortable to play on a wooden board. The Master would be much too strong for you (has a rating of about 2100 SSDF-ELO)

And the Citrine will also be a very strong opponent for you (even on the lower levels), but not quite that hard as the Master.

For me the "look and feel" of the Grandmaster is not very good: the pieces are too "fat" in my eyes and i don't like the "plastic"-feeling of the board and pieces. And it has a bug, which is very annoying for me: when you check the evaluation, pondering is disabled for that move...

Oh, and another point comes to my mind: if catching an opponent's piece, the computer accepts only one order: lift your piece (if its your move), remove the computer's piece and then set yours. If you are usually removing the catched piece first (like me), this can be very annoying too...

Also to keep in mind: Contrary to the Master and Grandmaster, the Citrine cannot be used with batteries.


hope, this helps!
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 08:20PM »
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Quote from: montana on March 26, 2009, 01:38PM   

Am rated 'bout 1400 and that was a couple of years ago so I am not going to give any chess program much of problem.




Since it will be your first stand alone unit, if I were you, I will go for the Citrine.  You will not be disappointed compare to the Master and Grandmaster.  I own all three along with many others.  Citrine is my top 2 choices in term of playing and definitely on top of the Master and GM.  Master is too small, and the GM don't have light on the square and you will need to read the notation on the display to know where it's move.

Hope this help.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 01:38PM »
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Am rated 'bout 1400 and that was a couple of years ago so I am not going to give any chess program much of problem.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 01:33PM »
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I own all three , and find myself using the Citrine the most.  However, I'm only rated around 1500 so the difference in program strength is not an issue with me.  If I were over 1900, I would probalby go with the Saitek Master.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 01:28PM »
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Quote from: hondo on March 26, 2009, 01:20PM   

Mephisto Master Chess Computer. It's not a real fancy wooden board but it does play a very outstanding game of chess and has many player options to choose from. It's worth the time to explore and certainly I would check the pricing on a few sites before buying. Good luck and happy hunting....    Hondo


Thank you hondo.  Will take your suggestion to heart as you and exabyte seem to be on the same wavelength.  Appreciate you fella's input.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 01:24PM »
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Thanks exabyte.

So all things considered you would pick the Mephisto Master over the Citrine as respects computer muscle?




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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 01:20PM »
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Hi Montana,
First Happy Birthday, I would propose you check out another chess computer but I make this suggestion not knowing your playing level...but either way... you may want to check into a game by Saitek called the Mephisto Master Chess Computer. It's not a real fancy wooden board but it does play a very outstanding game of chess and has many player options to choose from. It's worth the time to explore and certainly I would check the pricing on a few sites before buying. Good luck and happy hunting....    Hondo
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 01:16PM »
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Two of the best choices.  Another is the Mephisto Master by Saitek.  Of course, the Citrine is a wood(small) auto resopnse and the Grand Master is a large plastic auto response board and the Saitek is a small pressure sensitive board.  All have good programs, with the Grand Master the weakest.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 12:32PM »
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I have a birthday coming up and my wife has told me (she is such a sweetheart) I can pick out any desktop chess computer I want.  I play Chessmaster on my PC but have never owned a “stand alone” chess machine. So…. I will appreciate some input from you guys.

Have narrowed my choices down to 2.  Either the “Novag Citrine” or the “Excalibur Grand Master.”

Thanks

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