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« on: May 31, 2008, 12:16AM »
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I made other 2 games: ChessMan-Travel Chess Explorer 1 min/move  with res. 1-1. I'll made other games but i see the ChessMan more likely. The ChessMan anyway has response time more faster than the Travel (i must set the ChessMan at 3 min/move for attempt to synchronize response time with the 1 min/move of the Travel). Both have a very small opening book.
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Re:ChessMan Classic
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 02:33PM »
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Quote from: Tom on May 28, 2008, 01:46PM   

Fine. Are there any games between ChessMan and any computer of the list done and available? If so, how are the results? Can you evaluate the playing strength of ChessMan so far?

We'll have to await for Fiocri to play the games. So far, the computer is only in his possession.

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 01:46PM »
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Well, that shouldn't be too difficult. The Wiki Elo list gives us the following computers from 1790 to 1810:

  Novag Forte A 6502 5 MHz                    1809
  Conchess Plymate 6502 5.5 MHz              1808
  Scisys Turbo King 6502 5 MHz                1806
  Saitek Simultano C 6502 5 MHz              1806
  Saitek Corona C 6502 5 MHz                  1806
  Fidelity Excellence 6502 4 MHz              1801
  Scisys Turbostar 540 6502 5 MHz            1800
  Excalibur Igor H8 12 MHz                    1800
  Krypton Challenge H8 10 MHz                1800
  Krypton Regency H8 10 MHz                  1800
  Krypton Grandmaster H8 10 MHz              1800
  CXG Sphinx Acolade H8 10 MHz                1800
  CXG Sphinx Concerto H8 10 MHz              1800
  CXG Sphinx Legend H8 10 MHz                1800
  Mephisto MM II + HG240 6502 3.7 MHz        1790
  Excalibur Mirage H8 10 MHz                  1790

But I wouldn't be surprised if they all beat the Chessman Classic

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Fine. Are there any games between ChessMan and any computer of the list done and available? If so, how are the results? Can you evaluate the playing strength of ChessMan so far?
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Re:ChessMan Classic
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 09:50AM »
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Quote from: Tom on May 28, 2008, 08:51AM   

I like the layout of this chess computer. Very elegant. As fiocri said in the starting post the company claims the elo to rank at 1800 for this device. Normally they overdo it a little in order that people buy it quicker. Perhaps you can let another computer which has a tested elo of 1800 play against it and from the results you can derive the probable elo of ChessMan.

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Well, that shouldn't be too difficult. The Wiki Elo list gives us the following computers from 1790 to 1810:

  Novag Forte A 6502 5 MHz                    1809
  Conchess Plymate 6502 5.5 MHz              1808
  Scisys Turbo King 6502 5 MHz                1806
  Saitek Simultano C 6502 5 MHz              1806
  Saitek Corona C 6502 5 MHz                  1806
  Fidelity Excellence 6502 4 MHz              1801
  Scisys Turbostar 540 6502 5 MHz            1800
  Excalibur Igor H8 12 MHz                    1800
  Krypton Challenge H8 10 MHz                1800
  Krypton Regency H8 10 MHz                  1800
  Krypton Grandmaster H8 10 MHz              1800
  CXG Sphinx Acolade H8 10 MHz                1800
  CXG Sphinx Concerto H8 10 MHz              1800
  CXG Sphinx Legend H8 10 MHz                1800
  Mephisto MM II + HG240 6502 3.7 MHz        1790
  Excalibur Mirage H8 10 MHz                  1790

But I wouldn't be surprised if they all beat the Chessman Classic

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Re:ChessMan Classic
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I like the layout of this chess computer. Very elegant. As fiocri said in the starting post the company claims the elo to rank at 1800 for this device. Normally they overdo it a little in order that people buy it quicker. Perhaps you can let another computer which has a tested elo of 1800 play against it and from the results you can derive the probable elo of ChessMan.

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Re:ChessMan Classic
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 04:02AM »
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Quote from: Overtom on May 27, 2008, 10:53AM   

Since Tom sent me a few pictures of his computer, I'll show one here:



I agree there is a much larger choice of chess computers than many a layman could imagine.

And I am surprised as well that there is still such a constant influx of new ones 

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Hi Tom,

Nice photo, this machine looks very attractive.

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Never saw before!? Is that machine a new one? it looks different to all computers before - it looks really nice i must say, because i am not a friend from lexibook 

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 10:00PM »
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The chessboard and the photo are mine... >:(
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Quote from: Overtom on May 27, 2008, 10:53AM   

Since Tom sent me a few pictures of his computer, I'll show one here:



I agree there is a much larger choice of chess computers than many a layman could imagine.

And I am surprised as well that there is still such a constant influx of new ones 

With best regards,

tom




Hi Tom,

Nice photo, this machine looks very attractive.

Regards

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Re:ChessMan Classic
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Since Fiocri sent me a few pictures of his computer, I'll show one here:



I agree there is a much larger choice of chess computers than many a layman could imagine.

And I am surprised as well that there is still such a constant influx of new ones 

With best regards,

tom

(For one reason or other I assumed Fiocri's first name was Tom  )

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2008, 09:13AM »
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http://www.iplanete-jouets.com/art,15790,lexibook-cg1410-chessman-classique.htm#
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2008, 09:01AM »
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Quote from: fiocri on May 26, 2008, 02:09AM   

Yesterday i bought the Lexibook - ChessMan Classic. It is very faster than the Travel Chess
Explorer (Lexibook). On the packaging are declared Elo 1800 but i'm sure that it's not the real
strenght (is weaker). Does anyone know any more?


It's incredible how many chess computers there are. There seems to be no end to the list. Nearly every day someone else appears with another specimen.
"ChessMan" - I've never heard that name.
I'm curious about how your new computer behaves in direct competition with others no matter how strong it is.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 08:31AM »
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Quote from: fiocri on May 26, 2008, 06:21AM   

One or two days and i’ll sent you the photos of the ChessMan.
It played three games versus the Travel Chess Explorer (wins 2 and lose 1 but i noticed that the levels between these 2 machines are different because the ChessMan has response time more shorter. I will test it versus the Obsidian and the Expert Travel Chess (1 second for move for these chessboards).

The games against Expert travel and Obsidian will not be very hard to predict. I'm afraid Chessman Classic won't have a ghost of a chance.

At least I would be greatly surprised if they couldn't make mincemeat of the Lexibook machine

With commiserating regards,

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P.S. ... but still I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures 
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One or two days and i’ll sent you the photos of the ChessMan.
It played three games versus the Travel Chess Explorer (wins 2 and lose 1 but i noticed that the levels between these 2 machines are different because the ChessMan has response time more shorter. I will test it versus the Obsidian and the Expert Travel Chess (1 second for move for these chessboards).
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Re:ChessMan Classic
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 03:40AM »
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It's not a very well-known computer. I found no information about it on the Internet.

If it is based on the Travel chess Explorer, it could be an interesting program. Not a champion, but out of four games it played against Fritz-one-ply, it beat Fritz twice (click).

I'm quite curious to see what it looks like. If you happen to have a picture, please publish it here, or you could send it to my email address (to be found if you click my name) and I'll post it.

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2008, 02:09AM »
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Yesterday i bought the Lexibook - ChessMan Classic. It is very faster than the Travel Chess
Explorer (Lexibook). On the packaging are declared Elo 1800 but i'm sure that it's not the real
strenght (is weaker). Does anyone know any more?
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