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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« on: December 4, 2010, 04:38PM »
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Is this still up2date? I would be interested in the manual for Krypton Schachpartner (German preferred).
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2006, 06:59PM »
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Thomas,

Could you include me on your list? ( Ismenio@gmail.com ) I have decided to collect manuals now Even for the computers I don’t own. BTW, if anyone has one, in English, for the Novag Robot please let me know.

@Degradation: I just came from Kinko's and I have your copy ready! (for the GM!) Finally  :-
I will mail that tomorrow.

Sorry for the delay and thanks for your patience.

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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2006, 06:05AM »
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Quote from: Thomas Mayer on February 16, 2006, 05:25AM   

so well, the manual from Josef has arrived. It is in german - so I believe I have to do some translation before sending it to everybody who wants it.

Ich nehme die deutsche Version... 

Aber blöd, dass die Stufen nicht genau beschrieben sind, da verliert die BDA viel an Wert...  >:(


viele Grüße,
Robert
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2006, 05:25AM »
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Hi,

so well, the manual from Josef has arrived. It is in german - so I believe I have to do some translation before sending it to everybody who wants it. So be patient, you will get it -> I think we all waited now for so long that we can wait some more days...

Greets, Thomas

P.S.: Again there is no real description of the playing levels... So we must find out ourself, what they are doing...
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #4 on: February 9, 2006, 12:19AM »
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Quote from: Thomas Mayer on February  8, 2006, 08:42AM   

About the difference between 2000 & 3000.

Well, at first the Chess Partner 2000 has a sensory board which is connected to the computer, whereas you must type manually all moves into the 3000.

That's surprising me! I thought, that the only big difference was the display! (like the Chess Champion Pocket Chess; it has a LED-display, but there is a version with the 'Radio Shack'-label, that have a LCD; the program is the same; i am not sure about the SciSys Intercontinental Traveller, as i don't own this)

I know, that at least the 4000 also has no sensory-board, but as the 2000 and the 3000 look very similar, i had expected, that the 3000 also has one!

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So far I have no idea about the strength, I did just play a test match against the 3000, so I can not say much about it. (I DID play a lot against the 2000 about 25 years ago... it was my first chess computer...

Yes, i can remember, that i had tried it at the 'Horten'-shop, when i was young! (long time ago! )

But i played there much more against the MK1, which was the first chess computer there!

(sigh, the good(?) ol' times!) 

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Anyway, I believe that the program of the Chess Partner 3000 is nearer to the 4000 then to the 2000, but that is just a guess... (e.g. the display of those two are similar...)

This is very interesting, thank you!

Could you maybe play some test matches between the 2000 and 3000, to get an idea about the strength?

At the moment it looks to me, that the 2000 is the most interesting device for me (i hate typing in moves)

I own the 2000, the 4000 and the 5000, but as i only have the manual for the 2000, i did not play any matches between them.

Can anybody tell me the levels of the 5000? Or has the manual scanned (or photographed) to send me?


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Robert
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #5 on: February 8, 2006, 03:45PM »
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Sadly for me the Chess Partner 3000 is jinxed.

First Karsten B sent me one which was smashed to pieces in the post. Then I won the bidding for one on Ebay at the cost of 1.99 Euros. Unfortunately it wasn't worth 1.99 Euros and in trying to get it to work properly I completely ruined it.

The 4000 is a real turkey IMHO. But the Chess Partner 2000 would, I think, be appreciated by anyone who likes the old machines. Quite a good sensory board for 1980.

If anyone has a spare Chess Partner 3000 I would be interested.

Mike

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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #6 on: February 8, 2006, 03:22PM »
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Hi Thomas!


Quote from: Thoma Mayer on February  8, 2006, 07:17AM   

Hi,

.... Because I think about a section on my own homepage about my dedicated units I might make those manuals available there. (Of course everybody will get a copy if needed already now, like Tom I like to make others happy too...

Greets, Thomas
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Don't forget to post the link here!!
What's the URL for your site?

Best regards,

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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #7 on: February 8, 2006, 08:42AM »
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Hi Robert,

of course you will get a copy of it too... Seems that there are a lot Chess Partner 4000 without manual around...

About the difference between 2000 & 3000.

Well, at first the Chess Partner 2000 has a sensory board which is connected to the computer, whereas you must type manually all moves into the 3000. The next difference are the levels of play. The Chess Partner 2000 offers a wide variaty of Levels, starting with 2-10 seconds, ending with 10 minutes - 3 hours. (And I have seen it thinking even longer... The manual of the Chess Partner 3000 does not give much explanation about the levels. Level 1 should be 3-6 seconds, whereas it says that Level 8 is 5-20 seconds. I wonder what the addional 4 levels in the Chess Partner 4000 will mean. The funny thing about the Chess Partner 3000 is, that I believe that the case is almost the same then the 2000, but they skipped the sensory board and also the adapter plug. (The hole for it is in the case, but no plug)
So far I have no idea about the strength, I did just play a test match against the 3000, so I can not say much about it. (I DID play a lot against the 2000 about 25 years ago... it was my first chess computer...

Anyway, I believe that the program of the Chess Partner 3000 is nearer to the 4000 then to the 2000, but that is just a guess... (e.g. the display of those two are similar...)

Greets, Thomas
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #8 on: February 8, 2006, 08:15AM »
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Quote from: Thoma Mayer on February  8, 2006, 07:17AM   

thanks everybody for answering. I will get a manual from Joseph Zwinger by mail and as soon as I have it I will create a PDF out of it and send it to all which want it.

Thank you for this offer! I accept it!

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ScySis Chess Partner 2000
ScySis Chess Partner 3000

Can you tell, if there are differences between these two? (except the display; CP 2000 LED, CP 3000 LCD)


thank you very much,
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #9 on: February 8, 2006, 07:17AM »
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Hi,

thanks everybody for answering. I will get a manual from Joseph Zwinger by mail and as soon as I have it I will create a PDF out of it and send it to all which want it. (By the way, Mike, german would be definitely fine, you know, it's my native language...

For several other chess computers I have downloaded already some manuals from different sources, so thanks to them all who made them available. Because I think about a section on my own homepage about my dedicated units I might make those manuals available there. (Of course everybody will get a copy if needed already now, like Tom I like to make others happy too...

Greets, Thomas

P.S.: Manuals I have (original or copy)

Fidelity Chess Challanger 7
Fidelity Kishon Chesster
Fidelity Sensory Chess Challanger 8
Krypton Schachpartner 2 in 1
Mephisto I
Mephisto Europa
Mephisto Europa A
Mephisto Junior (The old one)
Mephisto Milano
Mephisto Mini
Mephisto Modena
Mephisto Mondial II
Mephisto Supermini
Mephisto Supermondial
Mephisto Schachakademie
Millenium Sprechende Schachschule
Novag Constellation
Novag Emerald
Novag Chess Champion MKI
Novag Chess Champion MKII
Novag Chess Champion Super System MKIII
Novag Chess Champion Super System Pocket Chess
Saitek Aria
Saitek Centurion
Saitek Teammate
ScySis Chess Partner 2000
ScySis Chess Partner 3000

I search apart from the Chess Partner 4000 also a manual for the Mephisto MeX, but this isn't too important, because some other Saitek computers are very similar, so I'm fine with the manual I have.

I wait for two more chess computers I got at eBay, the "my first" Mephisto and the Novag Presto, but both should be, according to their description, with manual.

PPS: Well, not too much impressive stuff in my collection yet, but anyway not bad, after 3 month of collecting. I did start with just a Chess Partner 2000 and a Mephisto Junior...
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #10 on: February 8, 2006, 03:51AM »
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Thought I better post here because my name is Thomas too.

Unfortunately I do not have a manual for the ChessPartner 4000, but I do have a bunch of manuals that I think would be useful to many people here.  I  have a bunch of manuals that I'm missing and would like to get.  I also get lots of emails from people asking me for manuals for chess computers they see on my web site.  I usually send it to them if I have it. 

I was wondering if Alain is interested in all manuals for his web site or is he just after certain ones? 

Anyway, I have the following manuals if anyone is interested...

Novag Amethyst
V-Tech Chess Master
Scisys Partner 1680X
Saitek 4 in 1
Scisys Chess Champion 2150L
Excalibur Ivan II
Little Chesster Challenger
Hanimex Computachess II (Newcrest)
Krypton Chess Express
Scisys Turbo 16K
Novag Opal
Krypton Challenge

Cheers,
Tom.

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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #11 on: February 8, 2006, 02:33AM »
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Some time ago, Thomas was so friendly to send me a PDF of a manual.

I wonder if Thomas could send me a PDF of this manual after he has receieved a copy from Mike. Not only is the Chess Partner 4000 part of the Overtom collection (but with no manual ), but I do get many requests for manuals as well. Besides, I also love to make people happy ... especially if it costs me nothing

Thanking you in advance,

tom
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Re:Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #12 on: February 8, 2006, 12:20AM »
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Thomas

Happiness is good.

Would a copy of the manual in German be OK? Email me with your address and I will send it to you. Sorry I cannot do scans at present.

BTW I found the Chess Partner 4000 a rather disappointing machine. Minimal features, no sound, cheap board, poor sensors and weird battery compartment. Do you know much about it?

I have the date on my Timeline as 1984 but I am not sure of it. Do you know what it is?

Mike
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Wanted: Manual for ChessPartner 4000
« Reply #13 on: February 7, 2006, 12:53PM »
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Hi,

if anyone could send me a copy/scan of it I would be quite happy. (Sorry, I can't offer you more then my happyness - on the other hand: doesn't this give always a good feeling when you make someone happy ?!

Greets, Thomas
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