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« on: May 9, 2005, 05:10PM »
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Quote from: Alain Zanchetta on May  9, 2005, 02:28PM   

Hi Tom & Ismenio,

yes, I can make a pdf out of tiff files, so it is ok with me.

For the language, if you send me the French version, I'll be happy  but if you send me an English version, I'll be happy too and more people will be able to download it from my site (or at least to read it after download).

But I can also put both English and French versions on my site  (my web space has been upgraded recently to 1GB)

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I can scan mine then! Give me a few days since it has many pages.

Tom, I think I made a little confusion here. I thought we both had the same manual, I didn't get that you had one in French only! I know language wasn't a problem for anyone. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Mine came with the manual in 4 languages (English, French, Spanish and German)

Regarding PDF files, just though I should mention this. I use OpenOffice ( www.OpenOffice.org ) which is a free office suite based on open source code (I love open source and you can use it to generate PDF files automatically with one click without the need to have Adobe Acrobat installed.

Klingon Regards,

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Re:CXG Portachess
« Reply #1 on: May 9, 2005, 04:00PM »
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Quote from: Overtom on May  9, 2005, 03:40PM   

You're not going to tell me you don't remove the chessmen from their moulding stalks, are you?

I even cut off the litlle remnants of these stalks because they look so ugly ...

With surprised regards,

tom
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I have heard of someone else shaving the stubs off with a razor blade.

No in this case I left them just as they came still on their stalks.

Save me I think I am becoming a collector.

Eyes on Stalks
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Re:CXG Portachess
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You're not going to tell me you don't remove the chessmen from their moulding stalks, are you?

I even cut off the litlle remnants of these stalks because they look so ugly ...

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Quote from: Overtom on May  9, 2005, 03:16PM   

Did you include the Portachess 2, Mike?

After all, it's called "Portachess", but looks more like the renowned Advanced Star Chess, but doesn't play half as well 



I think the Computachess is more like the Portachess, same weak play, same metal board:



The plastic cover makes it look quite stylish and characteristic for the period it was designed in.

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No I didn't include it. I agree the Portachess II must be very similar, if not a clone of the original Star Chess. The one before the Advanced Star Chess. I recently got a nice one of them:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5969512492&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

As brand new as a 20 year old machine can be. The pieces were still in the original bag and attached to the plastic stalks.

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Did you include the Portachess 2, Mike?

After all, it's called "Portachess", but looks more like the renowned Advanced Star Chess, but doesn't play half as well 



I think the Computachess is more like the Portachess, same weak play, same metal board:



The plastic cover makes it look quite stylish and characteristic for the period it was designed in.

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« Reply #5 on: May 9, 2005, 03:00PM »
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This is what I found in the loft.

3 versions of the 1981 Computachess all with the same sticker information on the back of the machine but from different sources.

1. Computachess - no other distinguising feature. Sold in Australia. 1981. White and Allcock copyright.
2. CXG Sensor Computachess - CXG 001 - 1981. Distributed by Eureka. Probably sold in UK.
3. Eureka Computachess sold in a Eureka Electronics box 1981  UK.

and 2 versions of the Portachess.

4. Black/silver - CXG Portachess- CXG 202. The sticker on the rear is missing but it has a manual. Sold in UK.
5. Red/Gold - Portachess. Normal Newcrest Technology Copyright 1983 sticker.

By my reckoning we have 5 different badged versions of the Computachess between us but only 2 or 3 Portachess versions. There are more badges. Toytronic and Schneider to name but two.

I don't think I will be collecting any more of these although I shall be trying to get a good condition Red and Gold Portachess. My one was bought from Steffen and arrived held together with chewing gum. To be fair the Ebay listing said just that.

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« Reply #6 on: May 9, 2005, 02:28PM »
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Hi Tom & Ismenio,

yes, I can make a pdf out of tiff files, so it is ok with me.

For the language, if you send me the French version, I'll be happy  but if you send me an English version, I'll be happy too and more people will be able to download it from my site (or at least to read it after download).

But I can also put both English and French versions on my site  (my web space has been upgraded recently to 1GB)

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« Reply #7 on: May 9, 2005, 01:41PM »
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I offered it in French not because I supposed Alain would not understand English well enough, but because I bought my Portachess close to the Gare du Nord, and the only manual in the box was ze French one.

So Alain, don't indulge in modesty and make it known to the world which one you want. You'll probably get mine in TIFF-format. Another Frenchmen once sent me a CD that he assured could be used to make PDF files, but I never managed.

Salutations cordiales!

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Quote from: Overtom on May  8, 2005, 11:45AM   

As you can see on my site, I also have the original Portachess there, And I also found a manual in French. So if you want that, I don't mind sending you a digital copy.


Tom, let me know if you're OK doing that for Alain. I'll let you go first unless you want me to.

The great thing about this is that Alain is likely to make that available to anyone in PDF format, which is a wonderful act!

This Page Intentionally Left Blank Regards,

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Quote from: Ismenio on May  8, 2005, 03:35PM   

Nice pictures! We can read the back of the unit really well.
I'm impressed about that time span.
Here's something for you Mike: have you ever heard it being called a Toytronic ?

http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/ChessComputer.htm

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I have heard that name somewhere. 

They seem to have used every name going on these early CXG handhelds. Those lids are a good example of how not to design a portable. So Toms idea that they made the Portachess with the clip on lid to replace them makes sense.

Going back to the Chess King thread and Mike Basmans reviews of the handhelds he describes the Computachess (eg your Hanimex) as having a far weaker program than the Portachess, which has the additional facility of being able to save the position in memory. So the later machine was improved in both strength, features and design.

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Nice pictures! We can read the back of the unit really well.
I'm impressed about that time span.
Here's something for you Mike: have you ever heard it being called a Toytronic ?

http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/ChessComputer.htm

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Re:CXG Portachess
« Reply #11 on: May 8, 2005, 03:29PM »
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Thanks for the info chaps. I shall get my various versions out of the loft tomorrow and post my contribution.

Take a look at this one :-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40855&item=5195048838&rd=1

Possibly the same as Toms Chess Voyager but also the same as the Portachess, in all but name. Made in 1992 like Toms. As I have a Portachess made in 1982 that gives a surprisingly long period of sales, at least ten years. Is this a record?

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« Reply #12 on: May 8, 2005, 02:59PM »
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First to Alain: I'm ashamed to say that I forgot the Sphinx this morning I was just leaving home when I saw your post and I only thought about the Hanimex, probably because it was a more recent purchase. I think that's the same that Tom has since the manual is in English, French, Spanish and German. I will compare that to the Hanimex one.

Mike, here's what I have for them:

- CXG-202 - Made in China - (c)1992 National Telecommunication System Ltd. (16 levels of play)

- Hanimex (HCG 1500) - Made in Hong Kong - Serial No. 177133 - Date code: 4984 (8 levels of play)

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« Reply #13 on: May 8, 2005, 02:48PM »
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Sorry, I should make a habit of signing my messages,

white & allcock regards,

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Yes, the year on my Portachess is the same: 1983.

The Voyager has a 1992 copyright on the back, ascribed to National Telecommunications System Ltd and was made in China. It has no serial number.

Another related machine is the Computachess. The back says "Copyright 1981 White And Allcock, Hong Kong."

And as we all know, White And Allcock is a name used in some of the patents of ... CXG/Sphinx.

The Computachess has the same characteristic metal plate on top as the Voyager and Portachess. But the transparent cover could not be latched onto the computer. That was probably the reason to make the Portachess, whose cover can be clicked onto the computer, which made made it more portable (confirmed by its name).
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Mike,

mine is :
"Copyright 1983
Newcrest Technology Ltd."

Serial # 041177
Date code : 87 36

Best,
Alain

PS : here is a Schneider clone http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5973762062&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Alain/Ismenio/Tom

As you know from the Chess King and Mattel threads I have been trying to clarify the main makes, clones and dates of these early handhelds.

Ismenio has shown one of the Computachess/ Chess Voyager clones (Hanimex) which first came out in 1981. Alains Portachess first appeared in 1982 and is the original CXG product which itself appears in many guises. Tom has three of these machines.

All sorts of dates appear for these handhelds and I suppose they were sold in large numbers for two or three years.

Question - for all the machines of these types that you have, can you please tell me the makes, dates and countries of origin shown in the manuals and on the machines?

Many thanks
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« Reply #17 on: May 8, 2005, 12:32PM »
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Thanks for the offer, English or French is OK for me.

Ismenio : this one is even closer to mine
http://www.ismenio.com/chess_sphinx_voyager.html

Thanks to both of you,
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As you can see on my site, I also have the original Portachess there, And I also found a manual in French. So if you want that, I don't mind sending you a digital copy.
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« Reply #19 on: May 8, 2005, 11:09AM »
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No problem Alain! I'll scan the manual.
Here's a picture of the one I have just for reference:



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