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« Reply #140 on: June 19, 2005, 11:20AM »
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Hi All

Ruud Martin has put this message on Kurt Kisperts Forum. So if you are interested in joining in on the Resurrection project this is probably your last chance.

Chess Friends,

The Resurrection is now owned by 19 chess friends around the world. I want to indicate that this delivery is limited to only 25 pieces.
This will at this time also be limited in time. Many are interested, but are awaiting for various reasons.

I hope you can understand that it will not be feasible to deliver Resurrection for the rest of this year and maybe 2007 as well. That is why I will impose a time limitation on the project as well.

Any orders until the end of juli 2005 will be accepted. This off course only when the last six pieces have not yet been taken.

The stability of the module is ok, and all bugs have been removed, so the risk is only minimal. And in this way I can focus on new developments like the real graphical display and bluetooth uplink.

Manual and foto are enclosed.

Greetings,
Ruud Martin


With 19 now onboard I suppose we can no longer claim to be the Dirty Dozen. The original ones perhaps. I guess I need a new Forum piccie. 

I wonder who the other seven are and whether Ruud is including himself, Louis van Bever and Hein Veldhuis (his testers) in that number.

Mike
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« Reply #141 on: June 10, 2005, 08:46AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on June  8, 2005, 12:39PM   

[Christian

How did you know?

You seem to have some experience of this.

They will be playing out in the garage tomorrow.

Mike


Mike,

Yes...how didI know Imagination? Experiance?

I think you should convince your wife that dining in the garage is far more appropriate than playing chess in the garage;)

Playing chess is more time consuming (if you need arguments...)

Matchmaking regards

Christian
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« Reply #142 on: June 10, 2005, 02:17AM »
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The level setting of all moves in 30 minutes does not work properly yet and it is necessary to set an actual number of moves which I have on 98. 99 is possible but I think it requires some fiddling.

This one move won't make much difference, will it? 

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So the final series score was Resurrection 3.5 - Mephisto Genius London 2.5.

Here the score is 3,5:3,5 against Genius (30min/98moves)

Against London RR leads by 9:7, but here at the beginning i tried different time-controls (30min/60moves, 30sec/move which gave RR some time-advantage)

But anyway: close and interesting matches!


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« Reply #143 on: June 9, 2005, 02:52PM »
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Now most of you are probably heartily sick of Resurrection games by now, but that won't stop me. Oh no.

Games 5 and 6 of Resurrection versus Mephisto Genius London.

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E34"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "213"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5.
cxd5 Qxd5 6. Nf3 Qf5 7. Qxf5 exf5 8. a3 Be7 9. Bf4 c6 10. e3 O-O 11. Bd3 Nh5
12. Be5 Be6 13. O-O Nd7 14. Rfc1 Nxe5 15. Nxe5 Rad8 16. Na4 f4 17. Nc5 fxe3 18.
fxe3 Bc8 19. Ne4 Nf6 20. Nd2 Ng4 21. Nxg4 Bxg4 22. Ne4 Rfe8 23. Rf1 Rd7 24. Rf4
Be6 25. Rc1 Bd5 26. Kf2 Kh8 27. g3 Rdd8 28. h3 f6 29. h4 Bf8 30. Nc3 Bf7 31.
Ne4 Bg6 32. Rh1 Rd5 33. Rc1 Rh5 34. Rc3 Rh6 35. Rb3 Rb8 36. Kg2 Bf7 37. Rc3 Re8
38. Kf2 Bd5 39. b4 a6 40. Rc2 Be7 41. Rc1 g5 42. hxg5 fxg5 43. Rf5 a5 44. Re5
axb4 45. axb4 Rf8+ 46. Kg2 Bxb4 47. Rb1 Bd6 48. Rxg5 Rf7 49. Ra1 b5 50. Ra6 Bf8
51. Ra8 b4 52. Rb8 Rg6 53. Rxg6 hxg6 54. Kh3 Kg7 55. Ng5 Ra7 56. e4 Bg8 57. e5
Be7 58. Kg4 Rd7 59. Nf3 Be6+ 60. Kf4 g5+ 61. Nxg5 Rxd4+ 62. Ke3 Rxd3+ 63. Kxd3
Bxg5 64. Rxb4 Kg6 65. Rb6 Bd5 66. Kd4 Kf5 67. Rb8 Kg4 68. Re8 Kxg3 69. e6 Bf6+
70. Ke3 Bf3 71. Rg8+ Bg4 72. Rg6 Bh4 73. Rg7 Bf6 74. e7 Bxg7 75. e8=Q Bh6+ 76.
Kd4 Bf4 77. Qg6 Bb8 78. Qxc6 Ba7+ 79. Kc3 Be3 80. Kd3 Bf4 81. Qg6 Kf3 82. Qe4+
Kg3 83. Qe1+ Kh3 84. Ke4 Bd6 85. Qf1+ Kh2 86. Ke3 Be5 87. Qd3 Kh3 88. Kf2+ Kh4
89. Qe3 Bb2 90. Kg2 Kh5 91. Kg3 Bf6 92. Qe8+ Kg5 93. Qg8+ Kf5 94. Qc8+ Ke5 95.
Kxg4 Be7 96. Qe8 Ke6 97. Kf4 Kd6 98. Kf5 Bh4 99. Qe5+ Kd7 100. Qd4+ Kc6 101.
Qxh4 Kb5 102. Ke6 Kc5 103. Qa4 Kb6 104. Kd6 Kb7 105. Qb5+ Kc8 106. Qb2 Kd8 107.
Qh8# 1-0

Words fail me. Having done the hard part Resurrection messes up. By Move 64 Resurrection has a pair of bishops and a pawn against a rook and two pawns. Providing it controls the white pawns, not a problem, it has at least a draw and the evaluations are showing +1.44 to Resurrection (Fritz 8 ) almost whatever it does. So what does it do, it chases the wrong pawn. Having messed up it then is presented with a choice of taking a queening pawn or the rook. So it takes the rook, gives up the draw and loses. Series score 2.5 - 2.5

Game 6

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D47"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "211"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5.
Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Be2 Be7 9. Bd3 O-O 10. O-O a6 11. e4 Bb7 12.
Qc2 c5 13. e5 Bxf3 14. exf6 Nxf6 15. gxf3 cxd4 16. Ne4 Nd5 17. Qe2 Nb4 18. Bd2
Nxd3 19. Qxd3 Qd5 20. Rfc1 Rfc8 21. f4 Rc4 22. Ng5 g6 23. b3 Rcc8 24. a4 h6 25.
Nf3 Rxc1+ 26. Rxc1 Bf8 27. Nxd4 Rd8 28. Bc3 bxa4 29. bxa4 Bg7 30. Rd1 Qd6 31.
Qd2 Qc5 32. Qe3 Qc4 33. a5 Rc8 34. Rd3 Rb8 35. Ne2 Rb3 36. h3 Rb1+ 37. Kg2 Bxc3
38. Nxc3 Ra1 39. Rd8+ Kh7 40. Rd7 Qc6+ 41. Ne4 Ra4 42. Rd4 Rxa5 43. Rd6 Qc4 44.
Rd7 Rf5 45. Kg3 Qa4 46. Rb7 Qd1 47. f3 a5 48. Rc7 Kg8 49. h4 a4 50. Rc8+ Kh7
51. Ra8 Kg7 52. Nc3 Qd6 53. Rxa4 g5 54. hxg5 Rxg5+ 55. Kf2 Rf5 56. Rc4 Qd8 57.
Ke1 Rh5 58. Qg1+ Kf8 59. Ke2 Qa8 60. Qd4 Kg8 61. Ne4 Rh2+ 62. Ke3 Ra2 63. Nf6+
Kf8 64. Rc3 Qa6 65. Rd3 Qa5 66. Nd7+ Kg8 67. Qc3 Qa7+ 68. Nc5 Qb6 69. Rd1 Rg2
70. Rd7 Ra2 71. Rb7 Qd6 72. Ne4 Qa3 73. Qxa3 Rxa3+ 74. Kf2 Ra6 75. Nf6+ Kg7 76.
Ng4 Ra4 77. Kg3 Ra8 78. Ne5 Rf8 79. Kg4 Kg8 80. f5 exf5+ 81. Kxf5 h5 82. Nd7
Rc8 83. Kg5 Rc3 84. Nf6+ Kg7 85. Nxh5+ Kf8 86. f4 Rc5+ 87. f5 Rc2 88. Rb8+ Ke7
89. f6+ Kd6 90. Rb7 Rc7 91. Rxc7 Kxc7 92. Kh6 Kd6 93. Kg7 Ke6 94. Kg8 Ke5 95.
Kxf7 Kf5 96. Ng7+ Kg5 97. Ke7 Kf4 98. Ne6+ Ke5 99. f7 Ke4 100. f8=Q Kd3 101.
Qf3+ Kc2 102. Nd4+ Kd2 103. Kd6 Kc1 104. Qc3+ Kd1 105. Qc2+ Ke1 106. Qe2# 1-0

Resurrection wins a bishop for 2 pawns in the opening with 13 e5. Converting this advantage into a win proves to be troublesome and Resurrection has less than a minute left when it finally delivers mate. The level setting of all moves in 30 minutes does not work properly yet and it is necessary to set an actual number of moves which I have on 98. 99 is possible but I think it requires some fiddling. Anyway Resurrection played 98 moves with two minutes to spare then gave itself another 30 minutes. Being in no particular hurry it took a minute and a half to play the straightforward moves needed to finish the game. Not clever.

So the final series score was Resurrection 3.5 - Mephisto Genius London 2.5. Resurrection certainly rode its luck in some of the games, though in Game 5 it also threw away an advantage. Thats chess for you.

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« Reply #144 on: June 9, 2005, 09:51AM »
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Hi all,

interesting games, Mike. Thanks alot.

Btw, there are more Resurrection pics (from Leiden):

http://www.computerschach.de/images/stories/neuigkeiten/200506/resurrection.jpg

http://www.computerschach.de/images/stories/neuigkeiten/200506/cock.jpg

Best,
Martin

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« Reply #145 on: June 9, 2005, 05:11AM »
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Resurrection versus Mephisto Genius 68030 London continued. Score so far one win each.

In the third game Resurrection lives up to its name.

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.08"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A29"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "166"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 d5 5.
cxd5 Nxd5 6. d3 Be7 7. Bg2 Nb6 8. O-O Be6 9. a3 O-O 10. b4 a5 11. b5 Nd4 12.
Nd2 a4 13. Bxb7 Ra5 14. Bb2 Nxb5 15. Nxb5 Rxb5 16. Qc2 Qb8 17. Bg2 Rd8 18. Rfc1
Nd7 19. Bc3 Bb3 20. Nxb3 Rxb3 21. Bd5 Bxa3 22. Rd1 Rxc3 23. Qxc3 Bb2 24. Qc4
Bxa1 25. Bxf7+ Kf8 26. Rxa1 Nb6 27. Qa2 g6 28. Rc1 Kg7 29. Be6 Rd6 30. Bg4 Qd8
31. Qc2 Rd4 32. Bf3 Rb4 33. Qc5 Qd6 34. Qxc7+ Qxc7 35. Rxc7+ Kh6 36. Ra7 Rb3
37. Ra5 a3 38. Kg2 Kg7 39. Rxe5 a2 40. Ra5 Rb2 41. g4 h6 42. Kg3 Kf7 43. Kf4
Kf6 44. Ke3 g5 45. Ra6 Ke5 46. d4+ Kf6 47. h3 Ke7 48. Kd3 Rb3+ 49. Kc2 Rb4 50.
Rxa2 Rxd4 51. Ra7+ Kf6 52. Rc7 Rd6 53. Rc5 Ke6 54. h4 Nd7 55. Rf5 gxh4 56. Rh5
Kf7 57. Rxh4 Rg6 58. Kd2 Ne5 59. Ke3 Kg7 60. Kf4 Nxf3 61. Kxf3 Rc6 62. e4 Kg6
63. e5 Rc3+ 64. Kf4 Rc2 65. f3 Rc4+ 66. Ke3 Rc3+ 67. Ke2 Rc2+ 68. Kd3 Ra2 69.
f4 Ra3+ 70. Ke4 Ra4+ 71. Ke3 Ra3+ 72. Ke2 Ra2+ 73. Kf3 Ra3+ 74. Kg2 Ra2+ 75.
Kg3 Ra3+ 76. Kf2 Ra2+ 77. Ke1 Ra4 78. f5+ Kg5 79. Rh3 Kxg4 80. Rxh6 Kxf5 81. e6
Re4+ 82. Kd2 Rxe6 83. Rxe6 Kxe6 1/2-1/2

Resurrections split pawns are gobbled up by Genius leaving a Rook + 3 connected pawns versus Rook + 1 pawn ending. By move 62 Resurrection looks dead and buried. Mephisto makes the naive pawn push 63 e5 which I do not think a club player would play, preferring a slow edging forward of the King and pawns together. (Of course I stand to be corrected by those that can play endgames). Anyway this leads to a sequence of annoying checks. To avoid a three fold repetition, rather than give up two pawns to shepherd the other one through to queening, Genius completely loses the plot and loses all of its pawns. A draw.

And so to Game 4 :-

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B56"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "195"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6
5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nf3 Be7 8. Bc4 Ng4 9. Bd2 Be6 10. Nd5 O-O 11. O-O Bxd5
12. exd5 Nb8 13. Bd3 Qb6 14. Ng5 Bxg5 15. Bxg5 f5 16. c4 h6 17. Bh4 Qxb2 18.
Bxf5 Nf6 19. Be6+ Kh8 20. Qd3 Na6 21. Rfb1 Nc5 22. Rxb2 Nxd3 23. Rxb7 Ne4 24.
f3 Nec5 25. Rc7 g5 26. Bg3 Rab8 27. Rxa7 Rb4 28. Rc7 Rxc4 29. Rc6 Rd8 30. a3
Kg7 31. Kf1 Kf6 32. Rc7 Rb8 33. Bg4 Rd4 34. Bh5 Rb7 35. Rxb7 Nxb7 36. Be8 Nbc5
37. Bc6 Na4 38. Kg1 Nc3 39. a4 Nb4 40. Bf2 Rd3 41. a5 Nc2 42. Rf1 Nb4 43. Bb7
Ne2+ 44. Kh1 Ra3 45. Bb6 Nc3 46. Bd8+ Kf7 47. Bc6 Ncxd5 48. Bd7 Nd3 49. Bb5
N3f4 50. Bb6 Nc3 51. Ba6 Nfd5 52. Bc4 Ra4 53. Bd3 Nxb6 54. axb6 d5 55. b7 Rb4
56. Rc1 d4 57. Ba6 Ke6 58. h4 Kd6 59. hxg5 hxg5 60. Ra1 g4 61. fxg4 e4 62. Rc1
Kc7 63. Rf1 Rb1 64. Rxb1 Nxb1 65. g5 Nc3 66. g6 Nd5 67. Kg1 Kb8 68. g7 Ne7 69.
Kf2 Kc7 70. g3 d3 71. Ke1 Kb8 72. Kd2 Kc7 73. Bc4 Kxb7 74. Bd5+ Kc7 75. Bxe4
Kd6 76. Bxd3 Ke6 77. Bc4+ Kf6 78. g8=Q Nxg8 79. Bxg8 Kf5 80. Ke1 Kg4 81. Kf2
Kf5 82. Kf3 Kg6 83. Kf4 Kf6 84. g4 Kg6 85. Bd5 Kf6 86. g5+ Kg6 87. Be4+ Kg7 88.
Ke5 Kf7 89. g6+ Kg7 90. Bf5 Kf8 91. Kf6 Ke8 92. g7 Kd8 93. g8=Q+ Kc7 94. Qe6
Kb7 95. Qd6 Ka8 96. Be4+ Ka7 97. Qc7+ Ka6 98. Bd3# 1-0

This is a very interesting game. The early advantage swings strongly towards Resurrection a clear passed pawn up. Resurrection then plays a stinker 28 Rc7 rather than the obvious a4 which would give a real problem with the passed pawn. Nevertheless the evaluations are well in Resurrections favour for a while as a dogfight between Genius's two knights and Resurrections two bishops begins. Genius outmaneouvres Resurrection which is hampered by a back rank mate threat it allows to remain for too long. Just when it looks like Genius is getting well on top it plays 63......Rb1 and in no time its King and knight are tied down keeping two pawns from queening and Resurrection has an easy task.

There is a cliche used in English football - that it is better to be lucky than good. This could well be applied to Resurrections play in Games 3 and 4.

Score so far Resurrection 2.5  Genius 1.5







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if you keep on doing this on your dining room table I wonder whether your wife comes out of the kitchen fighting too

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Christian

How did you know?

You seem to have some experience of this.

Just before dinner Resurrection was sinking. Rook + 1 pawn against Rook + 3. I pleaded for 15 more minutes to put the "World Champion" out of its misery. Grudgingly I was granted 10 minutes. What do you know but Genius loses its way, and its pawns, for a draw with no time to spare.

They will be playing out in the garage tomorrow.

Mike
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And Mephisto comes out fighting :-
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Mike,

if you keep on doing this on your dining room table I wonder whether your wife comes out of the kitchen fighting too

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Following its series win 3.5 - 2.5 against the Tasc R30 Resurrection is now pitted against a Mephisto Genius 68030 with the London upgrade. This chess computer has stood just behind the Tasc R30 in the Elo List since I was a boy in short trousers.

Resurrection is playing in a humble Modular board whilst the Mephisto emerges from its Koffer in an Exclusive board. There isn't room for anything bigger on my dining room table. 

And Mephisto comes out fighting :-

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "171"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5.
cxd4 d6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Bc4 Nb6 8. Bb5 dxe5 9. Nxe5 Bd7 10. Bxc6 Bxc6 11. Nxc6
bxc6 12. O-O e6 13. Qg4 h5 14. Qe4 Qd5 15. Nc3 Qxe4 16. Nxe4 Nd5 17. Bd2 Rb8
18. b3 Ba3 19. Bc1 Bb4 20. Bg5 f6 21. Bd2 f5 22. Bxb4 Rxb4 23. Ng5 Ke7 24. Rfe1
Kf6 25. Nxe6 Re8 26. Nc5 Rxe1+ 27. Rxe1 Rxd4 28. Nd7+ Kg5 29. Ne5 Re4 30. Rxe4
fxe4 31. Nxc6 a6 32. Nb8 Nc7 33. Kf1 Kf4 34. Ke2 Ke5 35. Ke3 Nd5+ 36. Kd2 Nc7
37. Kc3 g5 38. Kb4 h4 39. Ka5 Nd5 40. Nxa6 e3 41. fxe3 Nxe3 42. b4 Kd6 43. b5
g4 44. b6 Kc6 45. Nb8+ Kb7 46. Nd7 Nc4+ 47. Kb5 Nd6+ 48. Kb4 Kc6 49. Ne5+ Kxb6
50. Nxg4 Kc6 51. Ne5+ Kd5 52. Nf3 Nf5 53. a4 Kc6 54. Ne5+ Kd5 55. Ng6 Kd6 56.
a5 Kc6 57. Ne5+ Kb7 58. Kb5 Nd4+ 59. Ka4 Nf5 60. Nf3 Ka6 61. Kb4 Ne3 62. Nxh4
Nd5+ 63. Ka4 Nc3+ 64. Kb3 Nd5 65. g4 Kxa5 66. g5 Ne7 67. Kc4 Kb6 68. Kd4 Kc6
69. Ke5 Kc7 70. Ke6 Kd8 71. g6 Ke8 72. g7 Kd8 73. Nf5 Ng8 74. Kf7 Kc7 75. Kxg8
Kd7 76. Kf7 Kc6 77. h4 Kd5 78. h5 Ke4 79. Kg6 Kd3 80. h6 Kc3 81. h7 Kd2 82.
g8=Q Kc3 83. h8=Q+ Kb4 84. Qb2+ Kc5 85. Qc8+ Kd5 86. Qd4# 1-0

Resurrection suffers from a poor pawn structure and after 23 ......Ke7 whites knight is a constant pest. I have no idea where it leads but Resurrection has to try 42 .....Nxg2 rather than the Kd6 played. It seemed that it was going to play this move but changed its mind.

So on to the second game. This time Resurrection gets its revenge with surprising ease :-

[Event "Game in 30 minutes"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.08"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Mephisto Genius 68030 London"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A29"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 d5 5.
cxd5 Nxd5 6. Bg2 Nb6 7. a3 Be6 8. d3 Be7 9. O-O O-O 10. b4 a5 11. b5 Nd4 12.
Bb2 Nxf3+ 13. Bxf3 Qc8 14. Na4 Bh3 15. Nxb6 cxb6 16. Re1 Bf6 17. Rc1 Qd7 18. a4
e4 19. Bxf6 exf3 20. Be5 fxe2 21. Qxe2 f6 22. Bc7 Rfe8 23. Qa2+ Kh8 24. Bxb6
Re6 25. Rxe6 Qxe6 26. Qxe6 Bxe6 27. Rc3 Kg8 28. f3 Bd5 29. Kf2 h5 30. d4 Kf8
31. Rc7 g6 32. Rd7 Bb3 33. Bc5+ Kg8 34. Rxb7 Bxa4 35. b6 Bb5 36. Re7 Rb8 37. d5
g5 38. d6 a4 39. b7 a3 40. Bxa3 Rd8 41. d7 Bxd7 42. Rxd7 Rxd7 43. b8=Q+ Kh7 44.
Qe8 Rc7 45. Be7 Rxe7 46. Qxe7+ Kg6 47. h3 f5 48. Qe6+ Kg7 49. Qxf5 g4 50. h4
gxf3 51. Qxh5 Kf6 52. Qg5+ Ke6 53. h5 Kd6 54. Qf6+ Kd5 55. h6 Kc4 56. Qc6+ Kb3
57. h7 Kb4 58. h8=Q Kb3 59. Qhc3+ Ka2 60. Qa4+ Kb1 61. Qca1# 1-0

The exchange of pieces on e6 on moves 25 and 26 turns out not to be mark of Genius. Whether the Mephisto was already in trouble I will leave others better qualified than I to work out.

So it is 1-1 with another 4 games to go.

Mike





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« Reply #149 on: June 6, 2005, 03:46AM »
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[quote author=Mike Watters
All games are "Game in 30 minutes" i.e. both chess computers have 30 minutes to make all their moves.

How was your setting of "all moves"? I have changed it from 60 to 98 or 99 because many of my RR-games have more than 60 moves and then it is overstepping! (after move 60 it gives itself another 30min; so 30min/all with "all moves" set to 60 is only 30sec/avg.)

I told Ruud already to correct this; but when set to 98, it is ok for the most games (as they don't have that many moves)


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I find Resurrection's use of time fascinating in that it will play most moves quite quickly. Then occasionally it will have a long ponder of 2 or 3 minutes for no obvious reason.

And even when there is only one logical move!


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« Reply #150 on: June 6, 2005, 01:21AM »
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The final two games of the six game series Tasc R30 v2.5 versus Resurrection v2.02

[Event "Test"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D18"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4
5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O Nbd7 9. Qb3 a5 10. Nh4 Bg4 11. f3 Bh5 12.
g3 Nb6 13. Bd3 g5 14. Ng2 O-O 15. Na2 Bd6 16. e4 Bc7 17. Be3 Nfd7 18. Nc3 Qe7
19. e5 Rad8 20. Ne4 h6 21. g4 Bg6 22. f4 c5 23. dxc5 Nd5 24. Bd4 gxf4 25. Nd6
Qg5 26. Bc4 Nxe5 27. h4 Qxg4 28. Bxe5 Be4 29. Rf2 Rxd6 30. Bxd6 Bxd6 31. cxd6
f3 32. Bxd5 exd5 33. Qd1 h5 34. Rc1 Rd8 35. d7 Rxd7 36. Rc8+ Kg7 37. Qd4+ f6
38. Qb6 Kh7 39. Qxf6 Rg7 40. Qf8 fxg2 41. Qh8+ Kg6 42. Qe8+ Kh6 43. Rf6+ Bg6
44. Qh8+ Rh7 45. Qf8+ Rg7 46. Qh8+ Rh7 47. Qf8+ Rg7 48. Qh8+ 1/2-1/2

Another QGD Slav. This time the Dutch Variation, which is appropriate in a Dutch v Dutch computer match.

The two computers trade blow for blow in a middle game which, to this 1600 Elo plodder, looks horrendously complicated. On move 27 Resurrection sacrifices a knight for a dangerous "looking" attack on Tascs king. Not satisfied with that, two moves later, it sacrifices the exchange on d6. A rook up Tascs knight is however pinned to its king. Tasc then launches all its major pieces in a dangerous looking attack on Resurrections king. Somehow Resurrection clings on for another three fold repetition. Great stuff !

And now to the finale. Game 6.

[Event "Test"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D17"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4
5. a4 Bf5 6. Ne5 Nbd7 7. Nxc4 Qc7 8. g3 e5 9. dxe5 Nxe5 10. Bf4 Rd8 11. Qc1 Bd6
12. Nxd6+ Qxd6 13. Bg2 O-O 14. O-O Rfe8 15. Rd1 Qc5 16. Rxd8 Rxd8 17. Ne4 Nxe4
18. Qxc5 Nxc5 19. Bxe5 f6 20. Bc3 Nxa4 21. Bd5+ Rxd5 22. Rxa4 Rd1+ 23. Kg2 a6
24. Kf3 Kf7 25. e4 Be6 26. Ke2 Rh1 27. h4 c5 28. e5 fxe5 29. Bxe5 Kg6 30. Re4
b5 31. Bd6 Bf5 32. Re7 Kf6 33. Bxc5 Rc1 34. Rc7 Rc4 35. f4 a5 36. h5 Ke6 37.
Re7+ Kd5 38. Re5+ Kc6 39. Rxf5 Rxc5 40. h6 g6 41. Rxc5+ Kxc5 42. g4 Kd5 43. f5
g5 44. Kd3 Ke5 45. Kd2 Kf6 46. Kc2 Ke5 47. Kb3 Kd6 48. Kc3 Kd5 49. b3 Ke5 50.
Kb2 Kf6 51. Kc2 Ke5 52. Kc3 Kd5 53. Kd2 Ke5 54. Kc2 Kd6 55. Kd1 Ke5 56. Kc1 Kf6
57. Kb2 Ke5 58. Kc1 Kf6 59. Kb2 Ke5 60. Ka3 Kf6 61. Kb2 1/2-1/2

This is another QGD Slav reaching the same position at move 16 as in Game 4. However 17 Ne4 leads to an exchange of pieces and an opposite coloured bishops endgame. Despite a 3 to 1 pawn majority on the queenside Tasc makes nothing of it and soon neither side can make progress.

So the 6 game series finishes Resurrection 3.5 to Tasc 2.5. My overall impression watching the evaluations of the Tasc, Resurrection and Pocket Fritz 2 through these 6 games is that there is very little between these two chess computers at this level setting (Game in 30 minutes). Of course a very much larger number of games is needed before any reliable conclusions can be drawn.

Mike
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« Reply #151 on: June 5, 2005, 07:52PM »
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Interesting results you're all getting! I would be curious to see a match against Alain's CEBoard as well. Just a thought.

Mike, you're not doing anything wrong with the viewer. It really doesn't have the save feature. That's why I'm using the other module on the Resurrection page to allow us to replay the games there. I'll try to put links to all the games posted here. I also need to update the page with something more than just Game #1, Game #2, etc. At least something like RR vs. Mephisto Genius, etc.

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I find Resurrection's use of time fascinating in that it will play most moves quite quickly. Then occasionally it will have a long ponder of 2 or 3 minutes for no obvious reason. This might be repeated the very next move or not at all.

Match so far Resurrection 2.5  Tasc 1.5.

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Mike,

maybe this is because of his permanent brain...most of the older computers could only consider one possible reply whilst pondering...it is possible that the RR examines several possible answers and therefore his replies are sometimes very fast...his RAM is 16MB!!!

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Continuing the series of games, Tasc fights back.

In Game 3 Tasc has chances but the game peters out into a Three-Fold Repetition with 37 Rh7?  :-

[Event "Test"]
[Site "Milton keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A01"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "84"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. b3 d5 2. Bb2 Bg4 3. Nf3 Nd7 4. e3 e6 5.
Bb5 Ngf6 6. h3 Bf5 7. g4 Bg6 8. g5 Ne4 9. Bxd7+ Qxd7 10. d3 Nc5 11. Nbd2 O-O-O
12. Ne5 Qe7 13. Nxg6 hxg6 14. Qg4 Na6 15. O-O-O Qc5 16. a3 Qa5 17. b4 Qa4 18.
Nf3 Bd6 19. Qd4 Nb8 20. Qxg7 Nd7 21. Nd2 Rdf8 22. f4 a5 23. bxa5 Qxa5 24. Nb3
Qa6 25. Qxh8 Rxh8 26. Bxh8 Qxa3+ 27. Bb2 Qa2 28. Bc3 Bc5 29. Nxc5 Nxc5 30. Rdg1
c6 31. h4 b6 32. h5 Na4 33. Bf6 Qa3+ 34. Kd1 gxh5 35. Rxh5 Qc5 36. Rh8+ Kd7 37.
Rh7 Qxe3 38. Re1 Qf3+ 39. Re2 Qf1+ 40. Re1 Qf3+ 41. Re2 Qf1+ 42. Re1 Qf3+
1/2-1/2

In Game 4 Tasc bites back.

[Event "Test"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D17"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "132"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 dxc4
5. a4 Bf5 6. Ne5 Nbd7 7. Nxc4 Qc7 8. g3 e5 9. dxe5 Nxe5 10. Bf4 Rd8 11. Qc1 Bd6
12. Nxd6+ Qxd6 13. Bg2 O-O 14. O-O Rfe8 15. Rd1 Qc5 16. Rxd8 Rxd8 17. Be3 Qa5
18. Bg5 Qb4 19. Qf4 Qxb2 20. Rc1 h6 21. Bxf6 gxf6 22. Rf1 Bg6 23. Ne4 Bxe4 24.
Qxe4 Rd4 25. Qb1 Rd2 26. Qf5 Rxe2 27. Rb1 Qa2 28. Be4 Qd2 29. Kf1 h5 30. Qh7+
Kf8 31. Qh8+ Ke7 32. Rxb7+ Nd7 33. Rxd7+ Kxd7 34. Bxc6+ Kc7 35. Qxf6 Qe1+ 36.
Kg2 Re6 37. Qxf7+ Kxc6 38. Qxa7 Qe4+ 39. Kh3 Qf5+ 40. Kg2 Qd5+ 41. Kh3 Rd6 42.
a5 Kb5 43. Qc7 Qf5+ 44. Kg2 Qd7 45. Qxd7+ Rxd7 46. h3 Kxa5 47. g4 Rg7 48. Kg3
Kb4 49. f4 Kc5 50. g5 Kd4 51. Kf3 Rg8 52. h4 Rf8 53. Kg3 Ke4 54. f5 Rxf5 55.
Kh2 Rf4 56. Kg3 Rg4+ 57. Kf2 Kf5 58. g6 Kxg6 59. Kf3 Rxh4 60. Ke3 Kf5 61. Ke2
Re4+ 62. Kf1 Kf4 63. Kf2 Kg4 64. Kg1 Kg3 65. Kf1 h4 66. Kg1 Re1# 0-1

This seems to be a more subtle game which is beyond my limited interpretation. Resurrection starts to lose its way around move 19 but can still apparently retreive the situation by 30 Rxb7. Instead the move played Qh7+ loses quickly.

Interestingly Game 6 reaches the same position on move 16 but diverges with 17 Ne4....

But more of that later.

Christian
All games are "Game in 30 minutes" i.e. both chess computers have 30 minutes to make all their moves. I find Resurrection's use of time fascinating in that it will play most moves quite quickly. Then occasionally it will have a long ponder of 2 or 3 minutes for no obvious reason. This might be repeated the very next move or not at all.

Match so far Resurrection 2.5  Tasc 1.5.

Mike

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These are the first two of a series of 6 games played between Resurrection v2.02 and a Tasc R30 v2.5 on 2nd June.
BTW Ismenio I tried to paste the games into the viewer you are using and managed that but could not Save them. Usual lack of computer savvy I expect 

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Mike,

interesting games...how much time did you give them?

I am actually playing a tournament of 10 games RR-StarSapphire (60 minutes each per game).
After four games it is 2.5:1.5 for the Sapphire!

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These are the first two of a series of 6 games played between Resurrection v2.02 and a Tasc R30 v2.5 on 2nd June.

Resurrection gets off to a flying start :-

[Event "Test Game 1"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Black "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D46"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "156"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. c4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5.
e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. O-O O-O 8. e4 dxc4 9. Bxc4 e5 10. Bg5 Qe7 11. Re1 Rd8 12.
Rc1 exd4 13. Qxd4 Bc5 14. Qd2 Ne5 15. Qc2 Bd6 16. Ne2 Nxf3+ 17. gxf3 h6 18. Be3
Bh3 19. Red1 Nh5 20. Qb3 b5 21. Bd3 Qf6 22. f4 Nxf4 23. Bxf4 Bxf4 24. Nxf4 Qg5+
25. Kh1 Qxf4 26. Be2 Qxf2 27. Qf3 Rxd1+ 28. Rxd1 Qh4 29. e5 Re8 30. Qxc6 Rxe5
31. Qa8+ Kh7 32. Qf3 f5 33. Qd3 Qf2 34. Qxh3 Qxe2 35. Rf1 Qxb2 36. Qd3 Qe2 37.
Qxe2 Rxe2 38. Rxf5 a6 39. a3 Re3 40. a4 bxa4 41. Ra5 a3 42. Rxa6 Rb3 43. Kg2
Rb2+ 44. Kg3 a2 45. h3 h5 46. Kf4 g6 47. h4 Kg7 48. Ra7+ Kf6 49. Ra6+ Ke7 50.
Ke5 Rd2 51. Ra7+ Kd8 52. Kf6 Rg2 53. Ke6 Kc8 54. Kf6 Kb8 55. Ra6 Kc7 56. Kf7
Kb7 57. Ra4 g5 58. hxg5 h4 59. g6 h3 60. g7 h2 61. g8=Q Rxg8 62. Rxa2 h1=Q 63.
Rb2+ Kc6 64. Rc2+ Kb5 65. Rb2+ Kc5 66. Kxg8 Qd5+ 67. Kf8 Qf5+ 68. Kg7 Qe5+ 69.
Kf7 Qxb2 70. Ke7 Qe5+ 71. Kf8 Qf6+ 72. Kg8 Qg6+ 73. Kh8 Qh5+ 74. Kg7 Kc6 75.
Kf6 Kd6 76. Kg7 Ke6 77. Kg8 Kf6 78. Kf8 Qf7# 0-1

On move 16 Tasc allows its King side pawns to be shattered and Resurrection soon wins one and gets well on top.

In the second game Tasc castles Queenside straight into trouble :-

[Event "Test Game 2"]
[Site "Milton Keynes"]
[Date "2005.06.02"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Resurrection v2.02"]
[Black "Tasc R30 v2.5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D20"]
[Annotator "Watters,Michael"]
[PlyCount "85"]
[TimeControl "Game in 30 minutes"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 e5 4. Nf3 Bb4+
5. Bd2 Bxd2+ 6. Nbxd2 exd4 7. Bxc4 Nc6 8. O-O Qf6 9. b4 Nge7 10. b5 Nd8 11. e5
Qf4 12. Nb3 Be6 13. g3 Qg4 14. Rc1 Bxc4 15. Rxc4 Ne6 16. Nbxd4 O-O-O 17. Qa4
Nxd4 18. Nxd4 Qh5 19. Qxa7 Qxe5 20. Rd1 Qd6 21. Qa8+ Kd7 22. Qxb7 Rc8 23. Rcc1
Rhe8 24. Nf3 Nf5 25. b6 Ke7 26. Rxd6 Nxd6 27. Rxc7+ Ke6 28. Ng5+ Kf6 29. Qf3+
Kxg5 30. Qd5+ Kg6 31. Qxd6+ f6 32. Qd3+ Kh6 33. g4 Re1+ 34. Kg2 Re5 35. Rxc8
Ra5 36. Qd2+ Rg5 37. h4 Kg6 38. Qd3+ Kf7 39. Qd7+ Kg6 40. Qe8+ Kh6 41. hxg5+
Kxg5 42. Qh5+ Kf4 43. Rc4# 1-0

Will Resurrection just keep on winning? I will post the other games later.

BTW Ismenio I tried to paste the games into the viewer you are using and managed that but could not Save them. Usual lack of computer savvy I expect 

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First off, thank you all the Resurrection owners for posting their games. This gives the rest of us a chance to experience it.

Second, I've updated the Resurrection page and added all the 13 games posted here and you can now replay them right from the browser. Just check: http://www.ismenio.com/ruud.html

I'm having problems with the last 3 games. I'm not sure why they won't play. I'll try to get that fixed over the weekend.

When you click on a game for the first time it will take a moment for the script to load but after that, the next games should load fairly quickly.

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Just finished a series of 6 games between Resurrection v2.02 and Tasc R30 v2.5 all at G30.

I expect you are wondering how they got on.

With luck I should be able to post some of the games tomorrow.

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Whoops !! 

Christian I pressed Extra by mistake and as far as I know nothing happened.

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Hmmmm. Lucky you are. Obviously not the self destruction button

Well IŽll still NOT try it...it has "Ruud only" written upon it.

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EXTRA is something which cannot used by us, the access is only possible for Ruud (maybe online diagnostics or fundamental changes...). He told me NOT to meddle with this menu point...so I do.

But: If you cannot resist: Let me know your EXTRAPERIANCE

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Whoops !! 

Christian I pressed Extra by mistake and as far as I know nothing happened.

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