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Well, this auction ended today. Final price:  EUR 1,355.99  (+- approximately US $1,706.58) 
Link: http://tinyurl.com/avp9t

What would the price be if the unit was in good/very good condition?

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Ismenio,

I sold a Vanc68030 in a good condition last November and got 2590. I guess a Lyon68030 in a very good condition should cost the same, around 2500.
But this unit looked like having been in a humid cellar for a millenium
So 1099 was my max. bid.

Well I didnt REALLY want it


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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2005, 09:24PM »
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Sure, I'll try to post links to get the translation for Babelfish or Google in the future. For now, just so we'll also have this text for future reference, here's the text from the translation, courtesy of AltaVista (Babelfish):


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Chess computer Mephisto Lyon 68030

For collecting tanks and lovers of old chess computers
We sell here for our customer folgenen article:

Chess computer Mephisto Lyon 68030
Power pack and a farmer are missing.
The drawer nipple is missing.
Mass approx. 50x50cm
The article is used and in agetypical condition. The function was not examined.





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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2005, 07:46PM »
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Anyway to translate these ebay sites you post to english?
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Quote from: Pippin on May 19, 2005, 01:16PM   

Go check out the Mephisto Lyon 68030 thats up for grabs at ebay.de - thats one banged-up chess computer! WHAT a pity. I guess its alright to let your lowly Chess Trainer take a beating or two, but this is a tournament machine! "Die Funktion wurde nicht geprft" - I guess not....

So sad...


Well, this auction ended today. Final price:  EUR 1,355.99  (+- approximately US $1,706.58) 
Link: http://tinyurl.com/avp9t

What would the price be if the unit was in good/very good condition?

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2005, 03:07AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on May 21, 2005, 05:40PM   

Here's why I asked that. I have seen a few Excalibur Grandmaster computers sold for a very reasonable price and I was thinking about how crazy it would be to get a standard wooden chess set, take the GM apart and merge the two!

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Ismenio,

I guess this will not work with the GM: Ive never seen one, but on the photos the GM seems to habe a very flat casing...
Since the heat developpement in the Turniermaschine is considerably high (you know this two Turbo Props in hte back ) this might cause problems in the GM...

Of course is is possible to put these cooling devices on the 68030 (I do not know the proper word for this) , but you have to calculate the amount of thermal enery first befor designing a differtn cooling element.

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Here's why I asked that. I have seen a few Excalibur Grandmaster computers sold for a very reasonable price and I was thinking about how crazy it would be to get a standard wooden chess set, take the GM apart and merge the two!

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Quote from: Ismenio on May 21, 2005, 06:42AM   

I'm just curious. How hard would it be to transport the internals to another board?

I know it would be a different computer but I was thinking of what it would take to get a battered computer or a non-working one and give it new life by using its organs to create a new one, mostly the auto-sensory ones.

Are the reed-swtiches hard to get to?

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Ismenio,

the reed switches are no problem...easy to get.

Transporting the internals is a different matter...Munich boards are no alternative, they are modular and the Turniermaschine is not...

I thought about using an old ESB from Mephisto...the casing is almost the same, only the drawer opens to the right...

But the auction first ...I know Mike is pacing his room and pondering whether he should bid or not

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I'm just curious. How hard would it be to transport the internals to another board?

I know it would be a different computer but I was thinking of what it would take to get a battered computer or a non-working one and give it new life by using its organs to create a new one, mostly the auto-sensory ones.

Are the reed-swtiches hard to get to?

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Quote from: Pippin on May 20, 2005, 09:40AM   

So you think its fixable at all?! Looks like someone drove a car over it and left it out in the rain. Well, maybe the circuits are just a bit dusty: im no engineer.

Will you sell it for a favorable price afterwards? ;-)


Pippin,

it is a little bit early to talk about afterwards
There will be some guy interested in this unit...
It really looks like it stood serveral years in a humid cellar...but the electronics in this device is solid.
The biggest problem will be the wood...you need an artisan for this, and a skilled one.

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So you think its fixable at all?! Looks like someone drove a car over it and left it out in the rain. Well, maybe the circuits are just a bit dusty: im no engineer.

Will you sell it for a favorable price afterwards? ;-)
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Quote from: Ismenio on May 19, 2005, 03:08PM   

Thanks for the info Pippin! I agree, it hurts the eyes


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It is a terrible shame.

A Mephisto Turniermaschine, arguably one of the most desirable chess computers ever sold. Definitely on my wish list, and to see one in this condition makes me sad.

I haven't read the listing yet, is it working Ok. Sshh don't tell Christian.

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Mike,

my ears are verywhere...still, you are both right...it is a shame...
I will get it anyway...though I am pretty sure it does not work...there will be some engineering work!

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2005, 03:32PM »
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Thanks for the info Pippin! I agree, it hurts the eyes

Link: http://tinyurl.com/avp9t

Just two of the pictures: 






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It is a terrible shame.

A Mephisto Turniermaschine, arguably one of the most desirable chess computers ever sold. Definitely on my wish list, and to see one in this condition makes me sad.

I haven't read the listing yet, is it working Ok. Sshh don't tell Christian.

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Thanks for the info Pippin! I agree, it hurts the eyes

Link: http://tinyurl.com/avp9t

Just two of the pictures: 






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Go check out the Mephisto Lyon 68030 thats up for grabs at ebay.de - thats one banged-up chess computer! WHAT a pity. I guess its alright to let your lowly Chess Trainer take a beating or two, but this is a tournament machine! "Die Funktion wurde nicht geprft" - I guess not....

So sad...
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