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Re:Live here: Kasim vs the Accoona Toolbar
« on: June 22, 2005, 06:06PM »
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Well, I made it back and was even able to go to work today!
I must be crazy to drive all this distance to spend just a few hours there and come back home to sleep for a few hours before going to work  :-

By the way, ChessBase has posted an article about the event with pictures. If you look at them you may be able to see some familiar faces

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2466

And these you won't see on their site. Just a couple of pictures I took from the animated people in the adjacent room where the game was being commented live:





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Re:Live here: Kasim vs the Accoona Toolbar
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2005, 01:44PM »
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Quote from: Dick Schneiders on June 22, 2005, 05:29AM   


I still get bored to tears watching a long soccer game when there are no goals and nobody wins or loses.  I certainly am not well-versed in soccer rules, but was there a time when ties were decided with a series of penalty kicks by each team until a winner was determined?

I did, sort of, enjoy watching some of the *women's* World Cup matches, but there were additional reasons for that being somewhat pleasing to the senses.    And the score didn't matter!

I suppose growing up with the smash mouth game of American football has tainted my sensibilities. 



Dick,

you are perfectly right with the boring soccer games....that´s why I switched to icehockey...this is always fun to watch.

The woman´s WC was of course a fun: Germany won, and this is something which the men will not achieve in 2006!

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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2005, 05:29AM »
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Quote from: Dick Schneiders on June 22, 2005, 04:10AM   


Chess matches are unusual, when a "tie" can be so exciting.  I suppose if I liked soccer, then I would understand the concept of a tie, but I can't see teams spending so much effort and not ending up with a clear winner. 



Dick,

I think it is the beauty of the game which counts...for me replaying a game which GM´s played against each other is  nearly as exciting like reading a good book...sometimes even more exciting. The outcome does not forcefully matter, if the game was logic and did not contain big faults...

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Christian,

Yes, I agree, and that explains how a draw in chess can be quite wonderful, but..........


I still get bored to tears watching a long soccer game when there are no goals and nobody wins or loses.  I certainly am not well-versed in soccer rules, but was there a time when ties were decided with a series of penalty kicks by each team until a winner was determined?

I did, sort of, enjoy watching some of the *women's* World Cup matches, but there were additional reasons for that being somewhat pleasing to the senses.    And the score didn't matter!

I suppose growing up with the smash mouth game of American football has tainted my sensibilities. 

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Quote from: Dick Schneiders on June 22, 2005, 04:10AM   


Chess matches are unusual, when a "tie" can be so exciting.  I suppose if I liked soccer, then I would understand the concept of a tie, but I can't see teams spending so much effort and not ending up with a clear winner. 



Dick,

I think it is the beauty of the game which counts...for me replaying a game which GM´s played against each other is  nearly as exciting like reading a good book...sometimes even more exciting. The outcome does not forcefully matter, if the game was logic and did not contain big faults...

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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2005, 04:10AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on June 21, 2005, 04:31PM   

7:31 - Game is over! Draw!!! 3-fold repetition!

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He still got the Trophee, like the guy from Alcoona said "why not?"

I'm almost without battery now so I'll stop here. I'll post some pictures later. Now it's back to work but first I'll have to face about 8 hours of driving not to mention getting out of the crazy NY traffic!

Bye all!

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Ismenio,

Thanks for the detailed reporting.  You are a brave person to "drive" to New York City! 

Chess matches are unusual, when a "tie" can be so exciting.  I suppose if I liked soccer, then I would understand the concept of a tie, but I can't see teams spending so much effort and not ending up with a clear winner. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 09:53PM »
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Good reporting Ismenio.

And a good ride home I wish!

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7:31 - Game is over! Draw!!! 3-fold repetition!

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He still got the Trophee, like the guy from Alcoona said "why not?"

I'm almost without battery now so I'll stop here. I'll post some pictures later. Now it's back to work but first I'll have to face about 8 hours of driving not to mention getting out of the crazy NY traffic!

Bye all!

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2005, 04:17PM »
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That's just wrong! We had two cell phones going off in less than 5 seconds and the 2nd one was pretty loud!
How can one concentrate under these circumstances. On a side note, Kasim said it was OK even to take pictures while he plays! I did take a couple but it doesn't look right to keep doing that as he is now down to 5min and needs more concentration. Keep in mind that in the match against Deep Jr, we were in a separate room and floor watching the game live and not in the same room as Kaspy!
While I was typing this, another cell phone went off!
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2005, 03:57PM »
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17:58  36:44

e2-f3    c7-e7 (Acoona moved immediately)
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OK, I found a much better way for you to follow this! The Acoona official site
http://www.accoonachess.com/index.php

Direct link to the game:
http://www.accoonachess.com/app/transmission/livechess.php

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2005, 03:55PM »
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19:42  36:34

f3-g5  d7-f5
e4xf5  g6-f4
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2005, 03:44PM »
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26:26    40:11
d1-e2    e7-g6
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2005, 03:41PM »
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6:37PM (EST) Pieces exchanged. And first check.

31:20    42:11
Kasim    Acoona

..            h6xg5
f3xg5+  h7-g8
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2005, 03:33PM »
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Clock: Kasim: 33:46 - Acoona: 47:47
Move 23 and no pieces exchanged so far.
Looks like the place to be is in the comment room. They're having a very lively discussion there. Unlike here in the main room where everybody is really quiet, as they should be.



I wish I could type the moves but I'm too far from the bug LCD screen and the big screens they have using projectors don't have a good resolution and I wasn't following each move as they were being played. If anyone finds a site where they are broadcasting the moves let me know. I checked ChessBase but didn't see it there.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2005, 03:20PM »
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Mike,

When I went to the conference room where they have people commeting on the game (including the Canadian champion) I heard something like "I wonder if he would ever play this move if the opponent was a human"

Update:

New position. Kasim to move. The clock is 40:28 for him and 53:10 for Acoona.
I went to the room where the game is being commented and there is quite a number of people there. Also some computers set up for people to play chess with. (and food!)

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2005, 03:16PM »
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Ismenio

Looks like Kasim has a typical anti-computer set up.

Attack down the H file coming?

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2005, 03:04PM »
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OK, the screen is not too good and I can't see the sequence of moves from here but I'm capturing the screen now on Fritz:
Kasim (W) to move



Kasim is deeply concentrated. The clock is 48:12 for him and 55:12 for Acoona
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2005, 02:44PM »
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They claim this is the first time an artificial inteligent chess program is used in an event like this. An Acoona sposkesman said the program learns as it plays. Sounds interesting!
This will be just one game. 60min for each side with 10 secs increments.

Kasim gave a short speech. Mainly praising chess and the folks from Alcoona. His first time in NYC.
Someone gave Kasim a hint: Ctrl-Alt-Delete

5:51 game starts!

Kasim (w) - Acoona (B) - it's going fast now! I can't type the moves! I'll take a picture of the current position and post here.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2005, 02:11PM »
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OK folks, it's 5:09 here at the ABC studios in Times Square NYC. I actually had a chance to talk to Kasim briefly and told him I hope he wins, he said he'll try!

We got in at around 4:20. Something interesting, looks like he'll be using a laptop computer and not something like a DGT board! I have the laptop and cell phone so while I have battery, I'll be posting updates here. Maybe even some pictures. Good thing they let us use them! We got front sits!
I think we may have over 100 people here.

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5:24PM East coast - the folks from Acoona start the event...

First pictures:

ABC studios, before it got crowded:



Kasim on screen. Posing for pictures for the media folks:



I got to take a picture with him. (I'm the ugly, bad chess player on the left)



I see people from ESPN here.
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