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« on: February 26, 2005, 11:21AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on February 26, 2005, 09:14AM   

That's one of the reasons why sometimes I bid early on an item I'm interested in. It makes it harder for the seller to either change it to a Buy-it-now auction or to close deals outside eBay breaking the rules! (sad!)

They can still do it but it won't be as easy!

Ismenio


Yes, that does make a lot of sense, Ismenio.  I have bid early a few times on stuff, but I usually don't.  I never had anyone shut down an auction early on something I was only watching. 

Thanks for the suggestion.

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2005, 09:14AM »
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That's one of the reasons why sometimes I bid early on an item I'm interested in. It makes it harder for the seller to either change it to a Buy-it-now auction or to close deals outside eBay breaking the rules! (sad!)

They can still do it but it won't be as easy!

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Quote from: _hard on February 26, 2005, 02:57AM   

Hi folks,

Quote from: 'hard on February 25, 2005, 07:43AM   

If you are interested on the Chessmaster Diamond, you should accept shipping costs (to UK and US) which are probably higher than the price for the computer.

seems like I was complete wrong with the above message. Take a look at this eBay auction: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40855&item=5954296636&rd=1 . As the Chessmaster was not sold, Dick and Mike still have a chance for a "Schnaeppchen".

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P.S. I had to change my nickname from 'hard to _hard because of name restrictions of the board software for registered users


I missed the chance on this one, with shipping included in the bid price, as the seller ended the auction.

Perhaps he realized what it would cost to ship it to the U.S.?  Or perhaps he got an offer he couldn't refuse near home. 

Do you think he will relist it?  I had already told my wife that I was considering a new solution for my hat problem. 

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Re:Chess Master Diamond
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2005, 02:57AM »
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Hi folks,

Quote from: 'hard on February 25, 2005, 07:43AM   

If you are interested on the Chessmaster Diamond, you should accept shipping costs (to UK and US) which are probably higher than the price for the computer.

seems like I was complete wrong with the above message. Take a look at this eBay auction: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40855&item=5954296636&rd=1 . As the Chessmaster was not sold, Dick and Mike still have a chance for a "Schnaeppchen".

Bernhard

P.S. I had to change my nickname from 'hard to _hard because of name restrictions of the board software for registered users
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2005, 10:11AM »
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It is a real heavy machine. You could put the magnetic pieces on an iron wall and hang up your bowler hut. Best regards,
Bernhard


Very funny, Bernhard!!  Here in the US we don't see many bowler hats, but I do have a lot of golf hats. 

That might be an interesting way to use the pieces from a set like this.  My wife is always after me to pick my hats, etc. and I could hang them from the refrigerator, or other appliances this way. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2005, 07:43AM »
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Hi,

the couple of times catching a computer from ebay UK, I always asked about shipping to Germany before bidding. And nobody said no. In my opinnion it is the same in the opposite way. Feel free to ask me about a german translation of your "sellers question".

If you are interested on the Chessmaster Diamond, you should accept shipping costs (to UK and US) which are probably higher than the price for the computer. It is a real heavy machine. You could put the magnetic pieces on an iron wall and hang up your bowler hut. There are strong rumors, that the chess program was an advanced "clone" from an old Ron Nelson program (maybe cc10) and adapted to the sensory board.

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Re:Chess Master Diamond
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2005, 04:05AM »
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There are German bidders that I am pretty sure don't ask before they bid on apparently USA or UK only auctions. As most sellers just want the maximum competition for their articles most will readily agree to your bidding particularly if you show you appreciate the shipping costs involved. Perhaps some country/continent only auctions are done that way to protect sellers from regions where scams are frequent.

I will always ask if it says Germany only and have never been turned down. When asking American sellers I never know what the reply will be.

A Chess Master Diamond will not come up outside Germany very often. So to get one it is likely to require a little translation program German.

So what German curse words do you know 
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2005, 03:32AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on February 25, 2005, 02:02AM   

The Chess Master Diamond is one of my post-1985 favourites. This is one for collectors of the off beat rather than those looking for a strong opponent or a distinguished machine of its period. Here is one :-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40855&item=5167344431&rd=1

As far as I am aware it is the strongest machine for sale
which came out of the Soviet Block. That is not to say that it was very good at playing chess. Only Elo 1400 at a time when the state of the art was the Mephisto Almeria and Fidelity Excel Mach III.

It was made in Dresden, East Germany. Kurt Kispert dates it at 1989; the same year that the Berlin Wall fell. My one was factory completed on 29/12/1987 and sold on 9/3/1988. How is that for date coding! 

The chess computer itself is well made in a solid attractive wooden case. Over engineered compared with Western products it came with full circuit diagrams. There are also Openings (PM10) and Endgame (PM11) modules which often are seen with it. Each of them, the pieces and adaptor come in a neat individual boxes. Mint examples are comparatively easy to find.

The whole package shouts Collect Me.


Thanks for the link, Mike.  It has very nice pictures! 

However, even though I have a very Germanic name, the only words I know are curse words, and I didn't see any of them in the auction wording. 

I do have a real question, though.  When sellers say "Germany only", or "Europe only" do they strictly mean that?  I have seen some US only auctions that have German bidders involved, so I wonder if the opposite happens.  I don't want to step on anybody's toes by bidding where I am not wanted.

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2005, 02:02AM »
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The Chess Master Diamond is one of my post-1985 favourites. This is one for collectors of the off beat rather than those looking for a strong opponent or a distinguished machine of its period. Here is one :-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40855&item=5167344431&rd=1

As far as I am aware it is the strongest machine for sale which came out of the Soviet Block. That is not to say that it was very good at playing chess. Only Elo 1400 at a time when the state of the art was the Mephisto Almeria and Fidelity Excel Mach III.

It was made in Dresden, East Germany. Kurt Kispert dates it at 1989; the same year that the Berlin Wall fell. My one was factory completed on 29/12/1987 and sold on 9/3/1988. How is that for date coding! 

The chess computer itself is well made in a solid attractive wooden case. Over engineered compared with Western products it came with full circuit diagrams. There are also Openings (PM10) and Endgame (PM11) modules which often are seen with it. Each of them, the pieces and adaptor come in a neat individual boxes. Mint examples are comparatively easy to find.

The whole package shouts Collect Me.
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