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« on: August 11, 2005, 12:45AM »
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Hi Ismenio,


Quote from: Ismenio on August 10, 2005, 09:50AM   

As the numbers were coming up I was entering them as fast I could. That's how I got 40 in 1 min (hmm.. reminds me of 40 moves in 1 hour! )

Phew, sounds like you had a hard minute!
Great effort!!

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One question: do you see any reason for testing it using a power adaptor rather than the batteries? Would that have any effect on the processor? (I don't think so but just though I'd ask)

Do you mean, that the TM could run slower on batteries for power-saving reasons? No, I don't think so! The only chess computer with power-saving-modes that I know of, is the Milano pro.


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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2005, 09:50AM »
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Hi Robert,

Thanks for the link! I will certainly check that thread. I'm glad you find the information useful.
You read my mind! I did want to use a camera to capture the screen and then play it back in slow motion to get all the information but I didn't have time for that so what I did was to get the TM ready, a stop watch (my PDA) and my computer with a spread sheet loaded and I had my hand on the numeric keypad and my eyes on the TM display
As the numbers were coming up I was entering them as fast I could. That's how I got 40 in 1 min (hmm.. reminds me of 40 moves in 1 hour! )

Thanks for the info you got from Bernhard. It matches what I was also told by a guy from the USCF saying the TM was a bug headache for them! I'm now paranoid and handling mine with double extra care!

One question: do you see any reason for testing it using a power adaptor rather than the batteries? Would that have any effect on the processor? (I don't think so but just though I'd ask)

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2005, 04:31AM »
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Hello Ismenio


Quote from: Ismenio on August  9, 2005, 07:28PM   

Robert, here are the results of my tests. I hope I did them right. I set up the rotating display in both tests do display what I was looking for.

Thank you, that's absolutely perfect!! (especially the first test much more accurate, than we did! (we simply estimated did you do it with a camcorder?)


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Here's what I have for the times it took the TM to reach the 8th and 9th half moves:

8th = 47 seconds
9th = 3min 31 seconds

That's interesting: the first result fits to them of the Miami/GK2000, but the second is a little bit longer (211 instead of 193)

It looks that F. Morsch really did some improvements on this program before it came out with the GK2000.

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Let me know what you make of that!

I told Bernhard about your tests and he will put the results in a thread on www.schachcomputer.info (http://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=180&highlight=gk2100+konsorten, where he compared nearly all of the modern Morsch-computers and their clones with their specifications.


Robert


P.S.: I asked Bernhard what problems he had with the TM. He said it was simply not working, but he remembered that at this time there had other people too problems with the TM  (but he didn't know what they were)
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« Reply #3 on: August 9, 2005, 07:28PM »
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Robert, here are the results of my tests. I hope I did them right. I set up the rotating display in both tests do display what I was looking for.

Test 1 - nodes per second.

I let it run in infinite level for 1 minute and I was trying to capture as much as as I could of the numbers shown. I was able to get 40 entries:

1299
1364
1249
1248
1259
1188
1196
1137
1234
1112
1063
1088
1178
1201
1143
1115
1193
1262
1261
1381
1229
1322
1356
1183
1237
1597
1367
1260
1174
1410
1302
1241
1185
1125
1200
1282
1202
1138
1090
1121
(40 entries)
Total=49192
Average=1229.8

Test 2 - depth

Here's what I have for the times it took the TM to reach the 8th and 9th half moves:

8th = 47 seconds
9th = 3min 31 seconds

Let me know what you make of that!

Thanks,

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« Reply #4 on: August 9, 2005, 03:00PM »
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Hi Robert, please do use the pictures! However, I think you are the best person to write the Wiki entry on this
Let us know when you do! Let me know if you want other pictures.

As for the test, I'll try to do it today or tomorrow and I'll post the results here. I'm curious about that now!

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« Reply #5 on: August 9, 2005, 01:41AM »
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Hello Ismenio,

Thank you for this wonderful pics!

Would you allow us to use them for our Wiki? (of course you can write an article on your own! And then I could translate it in German!)


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Also, I've found some more interesting stuff about this unit on the manual.

2000 positions in the opening book with "transposition manager" (what is this?)

When you play 1. d4 c6 2. e4 d5 then it is Caro-Kann, even with d4 as first move. The T.M. (and most modern computers) recognize this and continue correctly with Caro-Kann variants.

And it seems that also the library survived the transfer from Fidelity to Mephisto/Saitek (TC2080 and Mephisto Champion have also 2000 positions)

The "ticking clock" is still part of all modern Saitek/Mephisto-Morsch devices! (from the TC 2080 up to the Atlanta/Magellan)


Btw: Would you mind doing a test for me? Maybe you know, that Bernhard (and me) tried to classify all Gk2x00-computers and their variants. We used several ways to check the speed.

For the T.M. we need 3 infos from you:

Put the T.M. to Infinite level, set the INFO-display to show only the number of nodes per second and do 1. f3 as first (and only ) move. Then watch the display for about a minute. The average number of nodes is what i would like to know (it should be around 1400-1500)

Then please hit "New Game" and set the INFO-display to show only the depth and then play again 1. f3. What you should check now, is the time, when it reaches the 8th and 9th halfmove! (the Miami (H7000 with 10 MHz) has 47 and 193 secs in this test)

If you have problems, don't hesitate to ask!


Thank you in advance,
Robert

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« Reply #6 on: August 8, 2005, 12:41PM »
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In preparation for another update of the site (God knows when that will happen now   ) I've taken some more pictures of the Travel Master. Since I had an extra set of pieces I used them for these pictures and also I now have a round black pawn that I lost for my Sphinx Chess Card so I won't have to torment Dick to sell me one of his extra Fidelity Cards.

Also, I've found some more interesting stuff about this unit on the manual.

The processor: H8/330, 10Mhz ( ), 16K ROM, 0.5K RAM
Battery life is 150 hours (hmm.. the box says 200!)
The program type is: High speed selective search.
You can turn the sound off (try that in your Excalibur GM!)
You can also display search information and solve mate in 8. There are 64 levels.
2000 positions in the opening book with "transposition manager" (what is this?)
Clocks with countdown feature and the option to active what they call a "nervous clock tick" It emulates the sound of a real clock to "create the atmosphere of a grand master tournament in your living room"
Oh,and the model number is 6122.

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« Reply #7 on: August 2, 2005, 08:09AM »
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Hello Ismenio,

Quote from: Ismenio on August  2, 2005, 06:47AM   

You were able to identify the program by just looking at the display! How did you do that? What gave you that information?. As you can tell, I'm always learning


To be honest, I knew before, that the T.M. has a Morsch-program! 

But nevertheless: the squares in the upper left (indicating whose move it is) and the piece-symbols in the top row make this pretty clear!

When you compare the displays of Centurion/President/Cosmos/GK2X00 and the Travel Master: They all look the same!


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Hi Robert,

Thanks for that. I am curious about this unit.
Also, I forgot to ask before. You were able to identify the program by just looking at the display! How did you do that? What gave you that information?. As you can tell, I'm always learning

Thanks!!

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Quote from: Ismenio on August  1, 2005, 09:32AM   

Now you mentioned bugs (plural) so what other problems can you recall were experienced with this unit?

I'm sorry, but I've never seen a Travel Master in real life! So I don't know what kind of bugs it has

Perhaps similar to the ones of the Dominator?

But maybe _hard can say more about it! (if he doesn't answer here, I can ask him)


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« Reply #10 on: August 1, 2005, 11:51AM »
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Hi Ismenio,


Quote from: Ismenio on August  1, 2005, 05:58AM   

Alain, do you perhaps have any entries on your database for an eBay auction on this? I don't know if this is rare or if some were just not interested in it.


I don't have any Fidelity Travel Master in my database..

Congratulations,

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Quote from: Robert Weck on August  1, 2005, 08:21AM   

Hello Ismenio,


Congrats to you for this very hard to find computer! Very nice!

I know that 'hard had bought one when it was released, but he returned it, because the Travelmaster had too many bugs!
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As you may already have guessed (when you look at the display), it contains a Morsch-program. So it should be the predecessor of the famous Travel Champion 2080.

The Fidelity TM has a 16K-program, a H8 with 10 MHz and a 2000 halfmove-library. It was a little faster than the TC 2080 (7 MHz).

I haven't seen one on Ebay until now...


best regards,
Robert

Hi Robert and thanks for the great information! I will use that when I update the site adding this little creature. It's a shame there aren't many around. I really liked the concept and I think they should be able to design the board in a way that it would be more sturdy but maybe economics did play a role here.

Now you mentioned bugs (plural) so what other problems can you recall were experienced with this unit?

Gre,

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« Reply #12 on: August 1, 2005, 08:57AM »
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Well done Ismenio. This one is a cracker.

I think I had something similar to it once but soon either returned it or trashed it  because it was faulty. I did not know any better in those days.

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Hello Ismenio,


Congrats to you for this very hard to find computer! Very nice!

I know that 'hard had bought one when it was released, but he returned it, because the Travelmaster had too many bugs!

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Does anybody have any more information on this? Alain, do you perhaps have any entries on your database for an eBay auction on this? I don't know if this is rare or if some were just not interested in it.

As you may already have guessed (when you look at the display), it contains a Morsch-program. So it should be the predecessor of the famous Travel Champion 2080.

The Fidelity TM has a 16K-program, a H8 with 10 MHz and a 2000 halfmove-library. It was a little faster than the TC 2080 (7 MHz).

I haven't seen one on Ebay until now...


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« Reply #14 on: August 1, 2005, 05:58AM »
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Now here's an interesting unity, in my opinion.
And this one is mine! It looks like some creature you would see in the Overtom museum.
It's a Fidelity Travel Master which not only is a pocket computer but it is also pressure sensory! I haven't seen anything like it and a quick search on the web didn't produce much except for the classichessandgames.com which has the manual (or copy) for sale.

It's in absolute mind condition with everything still in the plastic bags including the two sets of pieces! It comes with flat (round magnetic disks) and "3d" plastic pieces!

Now, as you can see on the pictures, there are two ribbons connecting the two parts of the board
and John told me that made this unit very prone to problems as one could image! I'm handling this one very carefully since it's working perfectly.

Does anybody have any more information on this? Alain, do you perhaps have any entries on your database for an eBay auction on this? I don't know if this is rare or if some were just not interested in it.

As a great bonus I got an "extra" set of pieces from a broken unit he had (he no longer has it ) so I'll be able to use them for pictures and playing with this without taking the original ones out of the bags!!!















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