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Re:Mephisto Montreux/Saitek Kasparov Risc 2500
« on: August 11, 2005, 07:39AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on August 11, 2005, 01:07AM   

Christian

So are all the chess computers going with you? Or are you looking to offload a few? 




Mike,

ideed I offloaded a few since my contract is for a year only (it can be prolonged, but only another year).

I take the Risc with me, because it is still the most fun computer for me (I usually score 50%).
The Resurrection will accompany me also (eagerly awaitung Ruud´s upgrades)...

And (I am Kittinger addicted) the Star Sapphire and the Diablo will also cross the great water.

Tasc, genius and friends are stored savely by fellow collectors...hopefully honest ones

It will be like living in a monastery...not much comfort and a lot of time to pray

Maybe this therapy will stop me from collecting

Leaving Collection alone regards

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Re:Mephisto Montreux/Saitek Kasparov Risc 2500
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 02:40AM »
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Hi Micha,


Quote from: Chessguru on August 10, 2005, 09:05AM   

But for the small price (40 Euro), the upgrade is meaningful. In my next tournament, I will send the Montreux with 2048KB. [german on]Schau´n mer mal[/german off]  (@Robert: Wie übersetzt man das ins Englische?  ). 

Ich würd' mal sagen: "Let's see, what happens!"


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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 01:07AM »
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So are all the chess computers going with you? Or are you looking to offload a few? 

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Quote from: Mike Watters on August 11, 2005, 12:56AM   

Hi Christian

How is Canada?

I still have your Interface etc sitting there in my study waiting to try again. At the time I was just exhausted and frustrated trying everything to get the Smartboard and interface to work. In the end I gave up. But I did download the drivers you kindly provided and will try again in the Autumn. Summer tends to be taken up with summery things, and the chess computers get neglected. 

I have missed your posts a lot. Hope things are going well with you.

Mike


Hi Mike,

I don´t know yet how it is like in Canada yet. The planes leaves in 10 days from now...I´ll let you know.

I have been busy lately...organizing things and so on...

Farewell Partys...and a two week vacation in France (to hone my language skills 

So in two weeks I will have more time to "chesscomputer" around

Christian
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Hi Christian

How is Canada?

I still have your Interface etc sitting there in my study waiting to try again. At the time I was just exhausted and frustrated trying everything to get the Smartboard and interface to work. In the end I gave up. But I did download the drivers you kindly provided and will try again in the Autumn. Summer tends to be taken up with summery things, and the chess computers get neglected. 

I have missed your posts a lot. Hope things are going well with you.

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Quote from: Ismenio on August 10, 2005, 10:12AM   

I sure will!!

Hey Christian, do you have a spare kit to connect a Tasc to a PC you're willing do sell, trade, give away?

I think I remembered that you had sent one to Mike but I had no idea you still had more! Let me know the details.

Dank!

Ismenio


Ismenio,

you surely remember the package I bought in US several months ago. There were 2 Smartboards and 4 (in letters:four) interfaces. Maybe they put in all the interfaces they had available...
One rests peacefully in the old world (I never got any feedback from Mike whether it worked).
So still there is one to be had. Maybe 22nd of August in Washington?

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I sure will!!

Hey Christian, do you have a spare kit to connect a Tasc to a PC you're willing do sell, trade, give away?

I think I remembered that you had sent one to Mike but I had no idea you still had more! Let me know the details.

Dank!

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2005, 09:16AM »
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As for the Tasc, when I mirrored the archive for the www.tasc.nl site on www.ismenio.com/tasc I copied a lot of the downloadable files they had but one thing that I would like to do is connect it to my PC but I know it will be very hard to get the interface for that.


Ismenio,

just ask me

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2005, 09:05AM »
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Hi Ismenio,

Quote from: Ismenio on August  9, 2005, 03:14PM   
One more question, do you know how much the extra memory improves the ELO rating on it?


very difficult. In the CSS /1/94) were awarded the RISC2500 30-50 Elo. But this was only the extension on 512K. But meaningfully the application is only on Tournament Level. But I cannot say an exact Elo. Not yet. 

But for the small price (40 Euro), the upgrade is meaningful. In my next tournament, I will send the Montreux with 2048KB. [german on]Schau´n mer mal[/german off]  (@Robert: Wie übersetzt man das ins Englische?  ). 

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2005, 05:34AM »
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Hello Hans,

Quote from: Sargon on August  9, 2005, 11:37PM   
I have tryed to improve the "standard"  MB in mine montreux to 2MB and it didn't work . Can u send/produce  them for/to me please 4x 8 euro .


Have you asked Ruud about it? I can remember that he also did not bring it to work in his Montreux, but with a hint from Kurts forum it worked...

You can look in the archive on Kurts forum and search for "Montreux" and there is the thread (exactly one year old) The access to the forum doesn't alsways work; try again later (the messages are there!)


hope that helped,
Robert

Edit: Here is what Ruud helped to bring it to work:

> Besteht auch bei diesem Gerät die Möglichkeit der Aufrüstung ?
> Alwin,
> Nein, mit die montreux funktioniert es nicht.
> Grusse,
> Ruud
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Hallo Ruud,
mein Montreux zeigt nach der Aufrüstung 2048 KB RAM an.
Eingebaut habe ich die von Dir damsls für den RISC 2500 empfohlenen RAM Bausteine.
Beide Jumper müssen umgesteckt werden und nach dem Ausbau muß das Gerär einmal ohne RAM Bausteine gestartet werden. Dann die neuen Bausteine einsetzen aber richtig herum, die Kerben/Aussparung am Steckplatz und am Baustein beachten. Dann Neustart
mit 2048 KB RAM.
Gruß
volker


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Hello Micha,Ismenio,

I have tryed to improve the "standard"  MB in mine montreux to 2MB and it didn't work . Can u send/produce  them for/to me please 4x 8 euro .

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« Reply #11 on: August 9, 2005, 03:14PM »
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Hi Micha,

Yes, I have the same information on my Montreux:


Thanks again for all the great info! One more question, do you know how much the extra memory improves the ELO rating on it?

As for the Tasc, when I mirrored the archive for the www.tasc.nl site on www.ismenio.com/tasc I copied a lot of the downloadable files they had but one thing that I would like to do is connect it to my PC but I know it will be very hard to get the interface for that.

All the best,

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« Reply #12 on: August 9, 2005, 10:37AM »
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Hi Ismenio,

here the picture of the back of the Montreux. 



Quote from: Ismenio on August  8, 2005, 07:11PM   
I wonder why mine doesn't have the full information 


Do you have also such a picture on the back?


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On the date, the info on my Montreux says: "256K ROM - 128K RAM Montreux v1.0 10-Dec-94"
Do you think it's hard to find the RAM chips today?




That says my also. 

I had made an error. You need 512 k x 8. 32Kx8 are in the "Standard Montreux".

Well, it is not easy,  but I could procure the chips for you. Price 4x ~8€.


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I'm humbled to see your post here!


I always try to help, when I can.


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You have, in my opinion, the best site+community for chess computers out there!


Oh no. Too much honour. Is important that it the guests like and they cooperate. They should have enjoyment in their hobby. And if schachcomputer info. can contribute to it, it would make me happy.


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I love all the sites, big or small.


Exactly, that is it.  We do not need a number 1. We need people, which have fun at their hobby and to bring in itself actively.


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Keep up the good work!!!


Oh yes.   I hope you make it also.

A thing still. You have no downloads on your "TASC" side. Do you look for these things (Engines, Driver etc.)?


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Vielen Dank für Ihren Besuch!


I come back. 

Viele Grüße,
Micha
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« Reply #13 on: August 8, 2005, 07:11PM »
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Hi Sargon and Micha!

Thanks so much for the great info!

Micha: You're 100% right on the specs for the power supply. Now it makes sense that it is so big and heavy. I didn't stop to think about it: I was reading the details of just one "phase" of the transformer as they indicated on the label: 500mA and 2.9VA, when we double that we get what the manual says is the requirement. Also there's another label on top of that with the 5.x voltage. I wonder why mine doesn't have the full information 

Here's what the label looks like:



On the date, the info on my Montreux says: "256K ROM - 128K RAM Montreux v1.0 10-Dec-94"
Do you think it's hard to find the RAM chips today?

Also, I have to say that your English is great! If I could use chess computers to compare you would be like a Tasc and I'd be like a CC1 I'm humbled to see your post here!
You have, in my opinion, the best site+community for chess computers out there!

I love all the sites, big or small, but in yours you can find great people and great information even on models that are not seen too much out there. I wish I knew German and had time to hang around there
Keep up the good work!!!

Vielen Dank für Ihren Besuch!
Herzliche Grüße

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« Reply #14 on: August 8, 2005, 01:43PM »
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Hello boys,

Mephisto was taken over in januari 1994 by saitek.
The Risc 2500 have played in the W.K in madrid in november 1992 and in 1993 they where availible for us price 1199 dutch gulden =537 euro.The Montreux is from september 1995 1099 gulden= 499 euro .The Risc 2500 can be modified to 2MB memmory wich increase the playstrength. 1,5 week ago there was on ebay a Risc2500 2 Mb and was sold for about 450 euro .
I have a Montreux and i have also that BIG powersuply

Greetings from Holland
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Sorry, my english is very bad. 

Hi Ismenio,

Quote from: Ismenio on August  8, 2005, 10:35AM   

Also, any ideas as to why the power supply is so big? The output is 500mA so I can't understand why it would be so big!?

This is not correct. Please, this power supply did not use. The Montreux needs 5.6 V +1A!


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Does anyone know how long Mephisto was producing it before the merge with Saitek?


Mephisto was bought in 1994 from Saitek. The RISC2500 comes from the year 1993, the Montreux was produced from 1995.


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Also, has anyone upgraded the memory in one of these?


Yes, I.    2MB are doable.  You require 4x - 512Kx8 RAM.


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Last question, anyone has any estimate on the price of these "R30 little brothers", both current and when they were released?


The Price 1995 was 998DM. Current 500-700€

The Montreux to is got really heavily.  Congratulation. 

"Viele Grüße",
Micha

P.S.: Congratulations to your fantastic website.
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« Reply #16 on: August 8, 2005, 11:31AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on August  8, 2005, 10:35AM   

Another recent acquisition, this Mephisto/Saitek Kasparov Risc 250 is interesting to me for two reasons.

1. This was a test unit sent to be rated as you can see in the handwritten notes
2. The computer is the one that came with the box, but they're different as you can see in the pictures, the box is for the Saitek model but the unit itself still has the Mephisto "look and feel" to it, it's the Mephisto Montreux.

Does anyone know how long Mephisto was producing it before the merge with Saitek?
Also, has anyone upgraded the memory in one of these? Also, any ideas as to why the power supply is so big? The output is 500mA so I can't understand why it would be so big!?

Last question, anyone has any estimate on the price of these "R30 little brothers", both current and when they were released?

The great Shachcomputer.info encyclopedia has some information on this as well: http://www.schachcomputer.info/html/mephisto.html

Ismenio



Ismenio,

Well, I don't know the answer to any of your questions, but the power supply that came with my Exclusive/Polgar 10 Mhz is also very large.

I do have a question, though, to ask anybody.

I just purchased a Mephisto Munich S board with the Risc 1MB 16 bit module.  How does this Risc module compare with your Montreux in time frame of manufacture and strength?  Are all Risc computers essentially the same?

Thanks,

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Another recent acquisition, this Mephisto/Saitek Kasparov Risc 250 is interesting to me for two reasons.

1. This was a test unit sent to be rated as you can see in the handwritten notes
2. The computer is the one that came with the box, but they're different as you can see in the pictures, the box is for the Saitek model but the unit itself still has the Mephisto "look and feel" to it, it's the Mephisto Montreux.

Does anyone know how long Mephisto was producing it before the merge with Saitek?
Also, has anyone upgraded the memory in one of these? Also, any ideas as to why the power supply is so big? The output is 500mA so I can't understand why it would be so big!?

Last question, anyone has any estimate on the price of these "R30 little brothers", both current and when they were released?

The great Shachcomputer.info encyclopedia has some information on this as well: http://www.schachcomputer.info/html/mephisto.html

Ismenio






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