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« on: October 17, 2005, 07:57AM »
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Hi Bryan,

That is great news for UK folks! And it is a lot cheaper than some of the auctions I saw on eBay a while back (Europe/Germany): 69.99 British pounds = 122.96 U.S. dollars

Now, I just checked Amazon and TigerDirect, I'm keeping an eye on Amazon after I saw the post from Daniel, and they're selling it now for.... $49.99!!

I liked how this site shows how many units they have in stock

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 06:53AM »
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Just to ley you know that the Fossil PDA is now available here in the UK.
http://www.widget.co.uk/asp/product.asp?recorprod=&product=583&cat=&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=
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« Reply #2 on: October 1, 2005, 07:08PM »
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Hi Daniel,

Great call on the Amazon.com idea! I didn't think of that!
I was stuck on the fact that, initially, this version was being sold exclusively at TigerDirect.com.

I agree with the statement on the battery I already got used to recharching it every other day.
As for the size, it just took me a couple of days to get used to it.

Question, do you find it hard, sometimes, to tap on options or even to scroll when the control is at the bottom of the screen?

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Re:A chess computer on your wrist!
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 05:53AM »
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Ciao tutti,

You can order the Fossil Abacus Palm PDA watch from Amazon.com for the same price as TigerDirect, $79.99. After reading Ismenio's posts about the watch I bought one from TigerDirect but shipping got held up due to Hurricane Katrina and UPS sent it back to Tiger. When I phoned Tiger they told me that they refunded the money but didn't have the watches anymore. I was bummed because I thought I could only get it from Tiger or ebay.

I searched Amazon and bam it was there. I ordered it and have had it for a week. I love it. I have a Tungsten C and I think that the watch is pretty cool and practical. I installed ChessTiger and looked at it but haven't really played it. The game looks good enough to play and is easy to see the pieces. Overall I like it a lot.

My only beef is the battery life. If you leave the watch face on you get maybe three days of battery life. Right now I'm trying it with the auto off feature where you have to hit a button to read the time. It has been four days so far and the watch battery is still going strong.

The other beef is that the graffiti isn't as responsive as my zire or tungsten touch screen. You have too write hard for it to register always with the fear that you'll scratch the screen.

Overall I love the watch. My girlfriend thinks that it is way too high on the geek factor. But in truth it is not much bigger than my stainless steel Atomic G-Shock but it also isn't as stylish either.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2005, 01:15AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on September 29, 2005, 07:56PM   

Robert, it's gone from the Tiger site again! Not sure if they're ordering small supplies or what.

Just yesterday evening i wondered if they still have some watches left and i planned to look at their site this next morning! And you're right: it has completely disappeared from the website!

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Now, since I didn't get any messages from you it seems that you haven't received yours yet!

not until now! When i get it, i will tell you as soon as possible!

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I'm starting to get a little nervous since both the invoice and the box were sent on the same day! Is there a way you can check it on your end?

I think, it is a little to early to get nervous! Like i said in the other posting: i assume, that the custom office has it and is checking, what it's worth, that they can calculate the customs tax.

I just called the "Zoll Infocenter" and i was told, that it is not possible to check, if they have the package! That's the task of the postal service!

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I'm also a little nervous because I sent the Phantom to Christian one day after I sent you the watch and I wonder how long it will take for him to get it.

Christian's Phantom should be quicker at it's destination! 

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One time it took me almost a month just to get a small Novag handheld from Germany but I think that was a fluke.

I would calculate with at least 2 weeks for the package to be released from customs. German bureaucracy is not renowned for its speed! 

I don't know if one month is extraordinary long...

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Please keep me posted! I also want to hear about which chess program will you recommend

Of course i will!

I would say, that the best chess programs for Palms should be Genius, Hiarcs (not registered until now!) and Chess Tiger.

I must confess, that i haven't compared them by myself; but when i look at www.hiarcs.com, then it seems that Hiarcs should be the best Palm chess program (they claim it is even better than Pocket Fritz 2 (of course on equal CPU's!))


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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2005, 07:56PM »
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Robert, it's gone from the Tiger site again! Not sure if they're ordering small supplies or what.

Now, since I didn't get any messages from you it seems that you haven't received yours yet! I'm starting to get a little nervous since both the invoice and the box were sent on the same day! Is there a way you can check it on your end?

I'm also a little nervous because I sent the Phantom to Christian one day after I sent you the watch and I wonder how long it will take for him to get it.

One time it took me almost a month just to get a small Novag handheld from Germany but I think that was a fluke.

Please keep me posted! I also want to hear about which chess program will you recommend

I'm still working some crazy hours here but like you said, I'm glad I have a job It just feels like I'm missing something as I haven't had time to catch up with messages, see what's going on on eBay, etc

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2005, 03:20PM »
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Robert,

TigerDirect lists it as "available while supplies last":

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1186773&CatId=227

One thing I have to tell you. If you're going to use it as a PDA be warned that, because of the size, it's not so easy to write on the screen and even to access the up/down arrows in some forms. But I have no problem playing chess

Based on your message I take it that they won't ship it to you directly? Like I said, I'm happy to help you or anyone else get one. The shipping to my house was about $11 and on their site you can get a feel for the size of the box and I think they even list the weight.

Feel free to contact me about that.

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2005, 01:16AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on August 22, 2005, 02:25PM   

Thanks Robert!  I'm feeling a lot better now.
By the way, did you see that someone bought the one from the auction you posted here? 

Ismenio

Checking Ebay for finished auctions:

these first 4 were sold (yes!!)
Buy-it-now:
189 GBP (279 Euro)
289 Euro

normal auctions:
171 Euro
166 Euro

not sold:
133 Euro (this one was used; all other were new)
289 Euro buy-it-now (new)


Ok, i have made a decision: I want to buy one for me! But I don't know about Bernhard (haven't reached him at the moment)

He was the one, who worried about the battery-life and told me about that. I could not tell him until now, what I told you here (found this just yesterday on the internet)

I will try to contact him; I hope, the supplies will last that long...


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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2005, 02:25PM »
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Thanks Robert!  I'm feeling a lot better now.
By the way, did you see that someone bought the one from the auction you posted here? 

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2005, 06:51AM »
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Hi Ismenio,

Quote from: Ismenio on August 18, 2005, 07:45PM   

But you made me think about the life of the battery now. I hope it is replaceable!

In the meantime I have read, that it should be no problem, to charge a LiIon-battery very often. This doesn't shorten the battery-life!

One LiIon-battery works for 5 years, the next is unusable after 5 months (just like some cars!  )

So it is only annoying, if you have to charge every day...


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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2005, 07:45PM »
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Robert,

Sorry about that! I should have checked it better. The adapter has these specs:

Input: 100-240V AC / 50-60Hz / 45mA
Output: 6V DC / 250mA

It has two flat pins as you can see in the pictures below.
I'm on my 2nd day without charging, with light use. So I think their estimate is about right. But you made me think about the life of the battery now. I hope it is replaceable!





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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2005, 04:12AM »
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Hi Ismenio,


Quote from: Ismenio on August 16, 2005, 01:42PM   

Yes, it runs the Genius just fine! I think they will ship to Germany but if they don't, you know I can get it for you and Bernhard.

I asked "Misco", the german Partnershop of Tigerdirect, if we could get this Fossil-PDA over them. But I was told that the effort would be too high and the cost would be at about 250!! (the currency wasn't mentioned; but no matter if Euro or Dollar, that's way too much!!)

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Just let me know. And that would cost a lot less than 276.54 EUR (Euro =  341.88 USD) even with shipping

Thank you for this kind offer!! If we decide to get one or two, we will let you know!!

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The adapter that came with mine is 110V only.

Really? The description says 110-240V...

Could you maybe make a picture of the adaptor, that we can see the pins? (if they fit into our german outlets)

If not, that should be no big problem: the adaptor seems to deliver 6V DC and we can get this with nearly every universal adaptor. But if we could use the original, this would be better of course!

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I am using it heavily now so I have to charge it every day. I'll check on the usage for the next few days and will let you know.

Yeah, we would like to know this very much before we decide to buy!

It is maybe a problem, if you need to recharge every day, because you can recharge a normal LiIon-accu about 500 times. This could mean that it would last only for one year or so!


So we are waiting to hear what you find out!


thank you very much,

Robert
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2005, 04:01PM »
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Mike,

Just so you won't regret it later, take a look at this

"Fossil quietly killing off the Wrist PDA"
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000157054788/

I had a feeling this was coming when I saw the big price drop

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2005, 03:51PM »
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Ismenio

If I keep repeating to myself.....

This is not a chess computer
This is not a chess computer
This is not a chess computer
This is not a chess computer.......

Eventually I find that the urge to get one of these goes away. Until I log onto the forum again.

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2005, 01:42PM »
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Hi Robert,

I must say, I'm enjoying this little thing a lot! And I didn't even started using all the PDA functionalities, other than a couple of telephone entries added just to test the Jot system for entering data. You can even browse web pages off line and read emails on it. It should run most of the Palm apps out there.

Yes, it runs the Genius just fine! I think they will ship to Germany but if they don't, you know I can get it for you and Bernhard. Just let me know. And that would cost a lot less than 276.54 EUR (Euro =  341.88 USD) even with shipping

The adapter that came with mine is 110V only.

I am using it heavily now so I have to charge it every day. I'll check on the usage for the next few days and will let you know.

Ismenio

PS: You may also find this interesting:
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/08/reading_website.html
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2005, 04:05AM »
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Hello Ismenio,


Quote from: Ismenio on August 12, 2005, 03:13PM   

Some of you may have seen this saga. Being a gadget guy

me too! (and Bernhard also is very interested!)

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I finally got one! And yes, it does play chess! Not a dedicated computer of course but you can't deny that it is kind of neat to be able to play chess against a program on your wrist watch.

I find it also funny to play chess against your cell phone!

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When first released this model cost $200! Then it came down to $150 and now you can get it for $80 at tigerdirect.com

I will try to order some for me and Bernhard; I hope they ship to Germany!

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If you're going to buy one, check that before you go to eBay as I've seen them sell there for over $100!

That guy wants much more!!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Brand-new-Abacus-Wrist-PDA-Watch-Fossil-FX2008_W0QQitemZ5799058950QQcategoryZ3732QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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I have installed:
- Palm Hiarcs (v9.5 - latest!)
- Palm Chess
- Chess Tiger
- Open Chess
- Pocket Chess (cannot access the menu )

Thank you for the fantastic pictures!!

It looks, that you tried also Genius for Palm! Is this working?

Have you found any problems until now? How long is it running with one battery-load? (once idle and then running a chess-program? (analyzing))

They claim about 3-4 days, but is this realistic?

Another question: how about the adaptor? Is it only for US or is there maybe a European connector available?


thank you very much,
Robert
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2005, 03:13PM »
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Some of you may have seen this saga. Being a gadget guy, I've been watching the Fossil PDA wrist watch for many years now ever since they first showed up on the consumer electronics show and then was cancelled, then was revived.

I finally got one! And yes, it does play chess! Not a dedicated computer of course but you can't deny that it is kind of neat to be able to play chess against a program on your wrist watch. I have loaded a few programs to test it out. Think of it as a chess computer that you can switch and upgrade the engines!

When first released this model cost $200! Then it came down to $150 and now you can get it for $80 at tigerdirect.com

If you're going to buy one, check that before you go to eBay as I've seen them sell there for over $100!

I don't know how the programs would rate in terms of ELO but here are some pictures for you to have a feel for what the screen looks like. (It is a big watch!)

I have installed:
- Palm Hiarcs (v9.5 - latest!)
- Palm Chess
- Chess Tiger
- Open Chess
- Pocket Chess (cannot access the menu )


Ismenio

- Honey, did you buy another chess computer?
- Of course not! I just bought a wrist watch!






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