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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2005, 04:58PM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on October 14, 2005, 12:28PM   

Ah Tom we do not have this saying in England. Even if we did I would not have used it. We have great admiration for the Dutch. From babies we are taught the story of the little Dutch boy who sticks his finger in the dyke. 

But now you have mentioned it, I will remember the saying and maybe it will come in handy.

I will not ask you what your sayings about the English are. 

The Timeline is on its way to you. You will have to downgrade your description of "already classical" a shade.

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Mike,

Looking for stereotypes about the English, I found this one: " Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics are German, the lovers are Italian and it is all organised by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians ".

By the way when I read your mentioning of the Dutch boy sticking fingers in a dyke, I realized in time this is a decent forum, which made it very hard for me to give the comment I had in mind.

Thanks for sending the Timeline. I like it a lot. I'm sure the list will be consulted extensively by the community of serious collectors. Best regards,

tom
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Quote from: Overtom on October 14, 2005, 11:39AM   

The Dutch seem to "enjoy" the dubious reputation that they want anything they can get for free. After all, don't they say "the trouble with the Dutch is that they give too little and always ask too much"?

So if this timeline is for free, Mike, I'd like to confirm our reputation and wouldn't mind receiving a copy of this now already classical work.

Best regards,

tom

Ah Tom we do not have this saying in England. Even if we did I would not have used it. We have great admiration for the Dutch. From babies we are taught the story of the little Dutch boy who sticks his finger in the dyke. 

But now you have mentioned it, I will remember the saying and maybe it will come in handy.

I will not ask you what your sayings about the English are. 

The Timeline is on its way to you. You will have to downgrade your description of "already classical" a shade.

All the best
Mike
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The Dutch seem to "enjoy" the dubious reputation that they want anything they can get for free. After all, don't they say "the trouble with the Dutch is that they give too little and always ask too much"?

So if this timeline is for free, Mike, I'd like to confirm our reputation and wouldn't mind receiving a copy of this now already classical work.

Best regards,

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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2005, 10:18AM »
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Hello Mike,

Quote from: Mike Watters on October 14, 2005, 03:54AM   

If you are interested in the Timeline let me know and I will email a copy.


very interesting. Which information is found in the file?
I know how difficult such a thing is. I am enthused and strained.

Can i have a copy of the Timeline?

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Micha
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Quote from: Chris on October 14, 2005, 05:13AM   

Hi Mike 

This sounds like a great resource and the result of a fantastic effort on your part (the review of all SS, though fun must have taken ages alone!).

I would love a copy for reference though I doubt I would be able to contribute any significant new material.

Thanks very much for this magnus opus! 

Best wishes


Chris
Hi Chris

Thank you for the kind words. I am not sure that I have your email address. Email me with it and I will send you the Timeline file.

Mike
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2005, 07:24AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on October 14, 2005, 03:54AM   

If you are interested in the Timeline let me know and I will email a copy.


it seems very interesting  I am definitely interested
Thanks in advance
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2005, 05:47AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on October 14, 2005, 03:54AM   



If you are interested in the Timeline let me know and I will email a copy.




Yes. YES. I'd like to have a copy of the Timeline.
Thank you, Mike!
Have you already retired, or how is it that you have so much time to do profound research

Christian
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Hi Mike 

This sounds like a great resource and the result of a fantastic effort on your part (the review of all SS, though fun must have taken ages alone!).

I would love a copy for reference though I doubt I would be able to contribute any significant new material.

Thanks very much for this magnus opus! 

Best wishes


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Hi All

News of a new resource !

If, like me, you have an interest in the older chess computers its important to know just how old a particular machine is. If you wish to understand a machines place in the development of chess computers you need to see the bigger picture. This is not so easy because there is no comprehensive coverage of the hobby to date. At least not one that I have found.

Year of release information is available on Kurts Website, in the Oldies section, in Meine 100 Schachcomputers and for some of Karsten Bauermeister's collection. On the Dutch CSVN Website Hein Veldhuis gives the dates of commercial release, down to months, for his collection. The schachcomputer.info website has an embryo Wiki Timeline which will build as the articles on chess computers are written. These websites are excellent but they leave the dates for hundreds of chess computers unaccounted for. The information is also dispersed and, for an English speaker, sometimes difficult to fully understand.

So I have undertaken some research to give a more comprehensive coverage. Using books, magazine articles, manufacturers and retailers mailshots for the 1979-1985 period and particularly Selective Search magazine for the 1986-2005 period I have done a Timeline table. This covers about 470 chess computers and modules released 1977-2005. The lists are set out under the manufacturers, by year, with the month of release (where available) also included. The dates are UK release dates, unless an earlier release elsewhere is known.

Ismenio will post the Timeline on the website, when his current busy schedule calms down. It is too big, includes colour and is tricky to format so I can't post it here.

I hope that the Timeline will be of interest and use to many. In which case it has to be as accurate and comprehensive as possible. There are very many chess computers for which I could not pin down a release date. Information on handhelds, the weaker models and smaller manufacturers is the most difficult to come by. I have largely avoided the clone distributors such as Radio Shack, Tandy, CGL, Systema, Eureka and marketing names such as Acetronic, Quelle and Schneider. For some Far Eastern machines there are five or six different names. So I have tried to work on the basis of one machine - one entry, where possible.

If you are interested in the Timeline let me know and I will email a copy.

If you have sources of information which enable you to add models to the Timeline, or correct what I have done, you are especially welcome.

All the best
Mike
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