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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« on: October 24, 2005, 07:26AM »
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Hello Risc fans owners,

The diffrence between de 1 and 2 version is that in the 1th version some mistakes make in endgames they have fixed those errors by the 2th version,just a couple of bugs.
Remmember that when u plug  into the module  make sure then that the powersupply is into the 220 v ,not the other way arround , in long time it will kill ure module!
But once i had 2150 elo+- ,and i must say this program is very good for humans to play against it. fresh,sharp and offering pieces that's his style. and i like it

Greetings ,

Hans
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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 02:34AM »
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Christian

In that case I shall set my sights on the Risc 1 Mb only.

What is the reason for the Mephisto adaptor module and having to use it rather than the side power inlet? I have seen it on many machines, and recently got an adaptor module myself, but my Genius and all the other modules I have seem to work happily from the side inlet.

Mike


Mike,

I do not know this exactly, but I think there are some old exclusive boards (those with the batteries) where the side power inlet does not work with the 32bit modules.
Maybe Robert knows more.

I think, it has to do with the 5 Volt 1,0 A, that the Risc-modules need. Maybe the 1,0 A is too much for the side inlet...


Robert
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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2005, 11:42AM »
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I also like the Risc 1MB... because you can lower its strength and therefore I have been able to win once 
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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005, 01:45PM »
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I have decided to go into training to take on the Risc 1 Mb. Someone said this DVD has all the right moves. 



                                                             
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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005, 07:59AM »
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Ah Christian.....you have found out the Risc 1Mb weakness, so that leaves just one problem how to get to an endgame with any chances    ....  no i can see it's not going to let me do that.

Mike, i guess on paper the Risc II is even stronger but playing either one i predict it would end in tears !!.

Yes i forgot to mention that the module plug in is quite annoying, you have to be careful not to pull it towards you as it resets the game and the only way to switch it off is at the mains supply so you have no game save ?.
The adaptor plug does fit into the board socket on my Munchen but i have not tried it as the manual says to only fit it in the module {and i have history of blowing things up by doing silly things} so i am not trying it


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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
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Christian

In that case I shall set my sights on the Risc 1 Mb only.

What is the reason for the Mephisto adaptor module and having to use it rather than the side power inlet? I have seen it on many machines, and recently got an adaptor module myself, but my Genius and all the other modules I have seem to work happily from the side inlet.

Mike


Mike,

I do not know this exactly, but I think there are some old exclusive boards (those with the batteries) where the side power inlet does not work with the 32bit modules.
Maybe Robert knows more.

Christian
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Re:My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 06:55AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on October 21, 2005, 05:38AM   

Oh no! Now you have done it Ian. Now I want a Mephisto Risc 1 Mb too. 

Does the Mephisto Risc 2 slap you about twice as much? 


Mike,

there is no big difference in the Risc 1 and the Risc 2, neither in the price nor in the playing strength...

The only annoying thing is that you have to plug in the power supply jack directly in the module...this means the drawer has to rest open while playing

But Arno Kreuzberg found a solution for this one too...he can modify an Exclusive board in a way  that you can use the 'side entrance' for the jack to. But this modified Exclusive board can only be used for the Risc 1 or 2 module set until then.

Christian
Christian

In that case I shall set my sights on the Risc 1 Mb only.

What is the reason for the Mephisto adaptor module and having to use it rather than the side power inlet? I have seen it on many machines, and recently got an adaptor module myself, but my Genius and all the other modules I have seem to work happily from the side inlet.

Mike
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Quote from: Mike Watters on October 21, 2005, 05:38AM   

Oh no! Now you have done it Ian. Now I want a Mephisto Risc 1 Mb too. 

Does the Mephisto Risc 2 slap you about twice as much? 


Mike,

there is no big difference in the Risc 1 and the Risc 2, neither in the price nor in the playing strength...

The only annoying thing is that you have to plug in the power supply jack directly in the module...this means the drawer has to rest open while playing

But Arno Kreuzberg found a solution for this one too...he can modify an Exclusive board in a way  that you can use the 'side entrance' for the jack to. But this modified Exclusive board can only be used for the Risc 1 or 2 module set until then.

Christian
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Oh no! Now you have done it Ian. Now I want a Mephisto Risc 1 Mb too. 

Does the Mephisto Risc 2 slap you about twice as much? 
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 05:19AM »
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Quote from: drawmeister on October 21, 2005, 04:42AM   

I have recently added two strong computers to my collection and have been playing some casual games on normal settings against them.

Here are my initial thoughts:

Mephisto Berlin 68000.

Plays a safe game, happy to exchange pieces. I can quite often get a better position but it defends well with a draw being the likely result, and there have been lots of draws. I am still waiting for my first win which i am confident of getting since i have had a couple of overwhelming positions only to throw away my advantage by a careless mistake. The Berlin is currently ahead by about 65-35 as it has had some wins.

Mephisto Risc 1 Mb.

This is a completley different machine to the Berlin. I have never known a program be so quick and aggresive it just keeps coming at you and it scares me !. 
If you try to play a defensive game you find that your pieces { esp minor ones} become very passive and have nothing to do , you just have to sit there and watch it kill you. On the rare occasion that you get some play and try say a 'good' sacrifice it will take it as if it relishes a fight. Of course your sacrifice will be to no avail as it will have it all worked out.

This machine is a bully and i can't see me ever beating it........but i love it.

Ian.


Ian,

the Risc from Ed Schroeder is my favourite machine too. It is a tough one to beat, but it always provides very interesting games. I too love the agressivity of this program...there are some flaws in the endgame, but to get there savely it is a looong way

Christian
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My thoughts on Mephisto Berlin & Risc 1Mb
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 04:42AM »
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I have recently added two strong computers to my collection and have been playing some casual games on normal settings against them.

Here are my initial thoughts:

Mephisto Berlin 68000.

Plays a safe game, happy to exchange pieces. I can quite often get a better position but it defends well with a draw being the likely result, and there have been lots of draws. I am still waiting for my first win which i am confident of getting since i have had a couple of overwhelming positions only to throw away my advantage by a careless mistake. The Berlin is currently ahead by about 65-35 as it has had some wins.

Mephisto Risc 1 Mb.

This is a completley different machine to the Berlin. I have never known a program be so quick and aggresive it just keeps coming at you and it scares me !. 
If you try to play a defensive game you find that your pieces { esp minor ones} become very passive and have nothing to do , you just have to sit there and watch it kill you. On the rare occasion that you get some play and try say a 'good' sacrifice it will take it as if it relishes a fight. Of course your sacrifice will be to no avail as it will have it all worked out.

This machine is a bully and i can't see me ever beating it........but i love it.

Ian.
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