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« on: November 24, 2005, 01:11AM »
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Well it didn't sell so it's now going to be incorporated into a coffee table.
Work will probably start after Xmas now.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2005, 04:17AM »
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Mike,

Thanks so much for that link! I had never seen that article before and it was fascinating. Now I can put some pieces together: the info from the museum + Sue's email + this article. Good stuff!

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2005, 10:00AM »
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I must have read the story of how the Chess Challenger came about a good few times now but I always enjoy it. This could be a reliable version. Page 4 and 5 :-

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/leval06.pdf

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2005, 06:06AM »
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Ron Nelson??! Wow! Way to go Bryan!
When you said your “new messages” you mean your email right? (not the private messages here)
How did you get his email?  I tried to contact him via the chess museum/Excalibur to seek info on the Byte but no one replied to me.

If you see the patent for the CC1 it was granted to him. But when you watch the video at the chess museum in Florida, Sid Samole says “he” invented it and that he met Ron at the same time and that Ron was “sort of playing with it”

If you read a thread we have (somewhere in the back) I shared info I got from a visitor who is a lady who worked at Fidelity at the time and she remembered the prototype being brought there to be shown to the Samoles.

Well, let’s spam Rom now with requests for him to resurrect the project for the robot that Excalibur terminated! (joke!!!!)

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2005, 02:57AM »
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Well, I went via a third party to the highest authority about the confusion that surrounds the Sensory 12 & 12B, no other than Ron Nelson.
This morning in my 'New Messages' was one from Ron !!
Unfortunately, all Ron could say on the matter was that he thought that both of the Sensory 12's ran at the same speed of 3MHz and the 'B' indicated that there had been a software update.
So I suppose we are now no wiser even after this.
One little thing that I did notice about Ron's email was his signature which was

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2005, 12:59AM »
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Ismenio
Well it didn't sell so I've put it back on eBay at a lower price.
If it doesn't sell this time, then I will definitely take it down to the wood shed where it will be incorporated into that coffee table.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 05:48PM »
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Bryan, don't you dare do that!! Or I and the other members will have to hire some mob guys to teach you a lesson!

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 06:33AM »
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Hi Guys
It's still for sale.
If I don't manage to sell it, I am going to dismantle it and intergrate it into a nice coffee table that I have.
Will post a photo when completed.
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Bryan
PS...I think that the gold/brown board set it apart from any other press sensory chess computer.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2005, 05:57AM »
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Quote from: Mike Watters on November 10, 2005, 01:57AM   


I was probably being unfair. I am not keen on the gold metal playing area and also I find edge LEDs distract when you are playing a game.

Hmm, in contrast to you, i like the gold metal surface and i don't have problems with edge LEDs! 

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Then there is the other matter. 
When I played it a quick game the other day it beat me. 

That's a reason, I can understand very good! 


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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 01:57AM »
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It is a 4 MHz one Robert. They are neat machines and sturdily built, for a Fidelity. The touch sensory board is excellent, but I am not sure I like them.

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May i ask, why?


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I was probably being unfair. I am not keen on the gold metal playing area and also I find edge LEDs distract when you are playing a game.

Then there is the other matter. 
When I played it a quick game the other day it beat me. 

Dirty 12 regards
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2005, 01:14AM »
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Have you been looking on the quartz, to check its speed?


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It is a 4 MHz one Robert. They are neat machines and sturdily built, for a Fidelity. The touch sensory board is excellent, but I am not sure I like them.

Mike

May i ask, why?


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Have you been looking on the quartz, to check its speed?


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It is a 4 MHz one Robert. They are neat machines and sturdily built, for a Fidelity. The touch sensory board is excellent, but I am not sure I like them.

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« Reply #12 on: November 9, 2005, 01:12AM »
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Many thanks Alain.

It is confusing though. Yours is a 12, but you have it at 4MHz and a 16,000 positions opening book, as do Kurt and Willi Hahn. Bryan's one on Ebay is a 12B and he says 3MHz. Mine is a 12B and the manual (Model 6086) says 4 MHz 6502B and 3,000 opening positions. Taking off the back cover the CPU is actually a 65C02.

Have you been looking on the quartz, to check its speed?


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« Reply #13 on: November 9, 2005, 01:12AM »
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Mike
Sorry for the delay in replying to your original question but I have been waiting for Steve Blincoe to reply to my email.
Unfortunately, Steve has yet to answer but reading the other messages this morning, I think that it's still a little confusing just what Fidelity released.
Anyway, mine on a redish brown Fidelity label underneath states that it is a 6502B 3MHz.
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Re:Fidelity Sensory 12B for sale
« Reply #14 on: November 8, 2005, 02:03PM »
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Hi again Mike,

most of the informations on my site come from Willi Hahn's site and as I did not have the SC12's manual when I got the computer, it most likely that I went to this site...

On the manual I have now (downloadable from my site), they say : 3 MHz 6502B and over 3000 opening positions...

I suppose I have to downgrade my SC12's information 

Thanks,

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« Reply #15 on: November 8, 2005, 12:31PM »
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Many thanks Alain.

It is confusing though. Yours is a 12, but you have it at 4MHz and a 16,000 positions opening book, as do Kurt and Willi Hahn. Bryan's one on Ebay is a 12B and he says 3MHz. Mine is a 12B and the manual (Model 6086) says 4 MHz 6502B and 3,000 opening positions. Taking off the back cover the CPU is actually a 65C02.

Same old Fidelity even the manual has three different type faces where they were updating it as they were going along. 1984 and 1985 were fast moving times in the chess computer world.

All the best
Mike

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« Reply #16 on: November 8, 2005, 10:30AM »
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Hi Mike,

here is an extract of a message posted by Steve Blincoe on CCC on January 16, 2005 :

Fidelity used these letter designation's  to indicate models  released with
different clock speeds
Fidelity released the Sensory 12(SC12) with several different clock speeds as
follows
(other then the varied clock speed,each version is identical):

SC12(also known as the SC12A)-3Mhz
SC12B-4Mhz
SE12(Special Edition)-3.2 Mhz
SC12C-5 Mhz
RCS Granit "S"(Germany only)-9 Mhz

not only will the B appear on the face of your SC12 but it should also appear on
the original box


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Alain

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« Reply #17 on: November 8, 2005, 02:29AM »
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Hi Bryan

Do you know what the difference is between the Sensory 12 and Sensory 12B please.

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« Reply #18 on: November 8, 2005, 01:38AM »
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Hi
Just to let you guys know that I have a immaculate Fidelity Sensory 12B for sale on eBay.
If we are not supposed to post eBay sale items her, please delete.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chess-Computer-Fidelity-Sensory-12B_W0QQitemZ8717936702QQcategoryZ1182QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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