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« on: December 5, 2005, 06:54PM »
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Oi Luis,

Sei que o Zire 21 roda ambos programas. Pelo que vi, o Hiarcs 9.5 requer PalmOS 3.5 e o Zire 21 roda o Palm OS 5.2.1 entao voce esta coberto ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/palm/7216 )
Claro que memoria e processador (velocidade) afetam o ELO.

Quanto ao Chess Tiger, ate instalei-o no meu relogio Palm por isso ele deve rodar no Zire sem problemas. Na verdade, o 14.x aparece nessa lista ate mesmo rodando no Palm v:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ct_chess/faq.html#speedindex

Espero que esta informacao ajude.

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Re:Hello the Board and Request and Info Required
« Reply #1 on: December 5, 2005, 11:07AM »
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Hello. A Zire 21 can deal with a Hiarcs 9.5, i mean, in terms of memory, speed, etc ?

And what about Chess Tiger 14.9?

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 04:03PM »
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Thanks for the info Chris, unfortunately that one won't run on the 80 series, I think that there are only 2 or 3 phones that run on symbian 80 and unfortunately I have one of them - why they didn't stick to the tried and tested 60's series is beyond me. I suppose it has something to do with the display parameters. Anyway your recommendation is a good one as I used to run it on my 7650, nice program. I'm considering Tom's sapphire ... (even if a bit crusty). That way I can play using my own board at home as well as having a very strong portable when travelling. I had a quick game on the Expert last night just to check it was still running fine (I lost) - seems a shame to sell it really but now that i'm in my final year of a phd I'm really struggling financially. I've downloaded chess rally 2 whch I'll have a go at tonight - looks like a good way of meeting chess minded folk. Though I expect I'm going to pretty bad to start with as I haven't played competitively for many years.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 02:41PM »
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Hi 'nuppy' 

I don't know much about mobile phones but I know Richard Lang's Chess Genius is available for Symbian Series 60 phones if this is compatible with your phone. Claims to be the strongest program for these phones and given his pedigree I can believe it!

Link is:

http://www.chessgenius.com/nok/index.html

You can download and try it for free.

Best wishes


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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 01:00PM »
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Thanks for all your responses. Damn those Knights thats not the way I set em up 

I've emailed Novag re the manual. Rather than a Palm how about my phone? I have a Nokia 9300 communicator running symbian series 80. Looking on the net I find the following chess program http://my-symbian.com/9210/applications/applications.php?fldAuto=641&faq=3 though it doesn't have a rating and I expect that it might be a bit weak. Is that your Sapphire I see on ebay Tom?
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 10:30AM »
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Hi 'nuppy' 

Welcome aboard 

Just to re-iterate Tom's point really, I don't travel anywhere without my Palm Zire 21 handheld which I just use to play chess (great for the train journey etc).

I bought Zire 21 which is b&w version (to maximise battery life) cheaply on ebay (under 30) about 18 months ago and loaded it up with several programs. It's a great cheap way to play chess on the go! 

You can get a review of all the chess programs available for handhelds here:

http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/chessrev/chessreview.html

(Tom, thanks for your link - not seen this one before!)


My favourites are:

commercial: Hiarcs 9.5 - strongest (GM strength) with most features in my view  (http://www.hiarcs.com/)

freeware - Naum 1.8 (great program!)  (http://www.geocities.com/naum_chess/palm/)



Hope this helps


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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 05:02AM »
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As to the question of good travel sets, I think the Travel Champion and Cosmos are excellent value for money. They have been programmed by Frans Morsch (the maker of Fritz).

The same programmer made the Mephisto Miami and Advanced Travel Chess. Also very good value for your money.

What they look like can be seen on my site: http://chesscomp.overtom.nl

The computers mentioned above are all the size of, let's say, a book. If you want a smaller computer, you could go for any of these computers with LCD display:

- Novag Star Ruby
- Novag Star Diamond (stronger, but more expensive)
- Talking E-Chess
- Talking Touch Chess

The two Novag machines are not exactly user-friendly. Their operation takes some getting used to.

Besides, the displays of all these four machines are disappointing -- although the last one is somewhat better than the first three. If you want an LCD computer with a GOOD display, I would definitely go for a non-dedicated palmtop with a chess program. There can be no doubt their displays are better. And there are even a few programs available that are free.

A short essay about chess on a palmtop can be found at:
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~tluif/weblog/02JAN04.html

There are few older strong portable machines, such as the Novag Amber and the Kasparov Travel Champion (2080 - as it is sometimes called). If you can buy them at eBay they are certainly worth considering.

Then there are a few very strong ones made by Novag, such as the Sapphire II. A disadvantage is the fact that it is operated by keys and has no integrated board.

Hoping this may be of any use, with best regards,

tom
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2005, 02:27AM »
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And especially if accept to ship it outside of UK 

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Alain



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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2005, 01:24AM »
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Hi,


Quote from: nuppynup on November 10, 2005, 06:59PM   

I've had to put my Novag Constellation Expert up for sale and found that I'd lost the manual for it.

Don't worry, your machine will interest many people, even without the manual 
And especially if accept to ship it outside of UK 

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2005, 01:13AM »
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Hi
Is the following eBay link yours?
If so, I never knew that the old Expert could play Shuffle Chess ??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Novag-Constellation-Expert-Chess-Computer_W0QQitemZ8721348028QQcategoryZ2554QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The Bishops & Knights are on the wrong squares !!!
But who cares, what a lovely chess computer and really nice photos.
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Bryan
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 12:55AM »
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Hi nuppy

If all else fails asking Novag nicely  should get you a copy :-

perfect technology ltd. 
suite 406-407, yu yuet lai building
43-55 wyndham street
central, hong kong 

e-mail: sales@novag.com

I have a few copy manuals I got by emailing Novag, they do not have manuals for the very old machines but certainly for the Constellation onwards. It could take 1-2 weeks.

The online sources do not seem to have what you want.

My days of playing in the league and in tournaments are long gone. My impressions are that the answer to your final question is Yes and Yes. I regularly play blitz on ICC and many of those players would have played in clubs in the past.

I will step aside for others to answer your question on current travel sets my main interest is in the old machines.

All the best
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2005, 06:59PM »
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Hi, just came across this board, looks like a nice forum.
I've had to put my Novag Constellation Expert up for sale and found that I'd lost the manual for it. If someone on the board could send me a copy (electronic or paper) I'd be most grateful - sort something out via paypal if need be. I used to be a fairly good club player, my crowning achievements being the demolition of the UK junior champ and a closely fought draw (a game where I missed a win) with the East of England champ. Anyway with the forthcoming loss of my Expert I thought it might be a good time to invest in a decent computer travel set - I don't have much money to spend so something I can find on ebay will be fine. What would be your recommendations for a club level set? One other point of interest to me is the current standard of play. Are people playing the game these days (in general) stronger than when I was playing in the 80's i.e. has the advent of sophisticated chess computer programs and tutors raised the standard or has it had the effect of turning people away from the game?
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