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« on: January 12, 2006, 07:30AM »
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Quote from: Overtom on January 12, 2006, 05:54AM   

Since the Mephisto Chess Challenger manual is here at the museum, I tried to use it for the Mephisto Mystery. The level I set was D5, which should be blitz 30 minutes.

Here is what appeared on the board:

[Site "Overtom Amsterdam"]
[Date "2006.01.12"]
[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 32-bit"]
[Black "Mephisto Mystery, Tom"]

1. d4  Nf6  2. c4  e5  3. dxe5  Ng4  4. Bf4  Nc6  5. Nf3  Bb4+  6. Nbd2  Qe7  7. a3 



Qd6???  8. exd6  Nce5  9. axb4 ...

Is it possible, that, when you entered the level, you came across the fun-levels? (maybe in a game before?)

If yes, then you faced the famous "fun-level"-bug of the GK2100/Centurion/Cosmos/Mystery-series!!

In this case, the computer still plays at fun-level, even when it is set to e. g. 0:30:99 (and displays it this way!)

I have seen this more than one time on my computers...

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And then the Mystery computer lost another game against Rybka, but this time not in such a silly way:

[Site "Overtom Amsterdam"]
[Date "2006.01.12"]
[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 32-bit"]
[Black "Mephisto Mystery, Tom"]
1. d4  d5 2. Nf3  Nf6  3. c4  e6  4. Bg5  Be7  5. Nc3  O-O  6. Rc1  b6  7. cxd5  exd5  8. e3  c6  9. Bd3  Na6  10. Ne5  Nb4  11. Be2  Nd7  12. Bxe7  Qxe7  13. Nxd7  Qxd7  14. Qa4  a5  15. a3  Na6  16. O-O  Re8  17. Bd3  f5  18. Qb3  b5  19. Ne2  Bb7  20. h4  g6  21. Nf4  Re7  22. a4  Nb4  23. axb5  cxb5 


From now on, things go terribly wrong for black:

24. Rc5  Bc6  25. Rfc1  Rd8  26. Rxc6  Nxc6  27. Bxb5  Nxd4  28. exd4  Qb7  29. Nxd5  Rf7  30. Rc7  Qxd5  31. Bc4  Kh8  32. Rxf7  Qxd4  33. Qg3  Re8  34. Be6  f4  35. Qg5  Rxe6  36. Qh6  Re1+  37. Kh2  Rh1+  38. Kxh1  Qd1+  39. Kh2  Qh1+  40. Kxh1  f3 



Here white could have checkmated with: 41. Qxh7+

Instead, white made some frivolous moves: 41. Rxh7+  Kg8  42. Qxg6+  Kf8  43. Qf5+  Kg8  44. Qf7#  1-0

Even modern UCI-engines sometimes make mysterious moves! 

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So blushingly I admit Idon't really need the manual for the Mephisto Mystery since your remark that the Mephisto Chess Challenger has (more or less) the same manual, is absolutely correct.

good to read this!


best regards,
Robert (who is happy, that he doesn't have to dig for the manual in his drawers!  )

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 05:54AM »
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Robert,

Quote from: Robert Weck on January 10, 2006, 02:33AM   

.... Centurion/Mephisto Chess Challenger/GK2100 and Mystery and also their manuals are (nearly) identical. The only difference, that i know are the study positions of the Centurion (the Mystery doesn't have these IIRC) and the CPU-Speed.

I am not sure, if my Mystery manual is german only or multilingual...

Would you still want a german version, if no other is available?

Robert

Since the Mephisto Chess Challenger manual is here at the museum, I tried to use it for the Mephisto Mystery. The level I set was D5, which should be blitz 30 minutes.

Here is what appeared on the board:

[Site "Overtom Amsterdam"]
[Date "2006.01.12"]
[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 32-bit"]
[Black "Mephisto Mystery, Tom"]

1. d4  Nf6  2. c4  e5  3. dxe5  Ng4  4. Bf4  Nc6  5. Nf3  Bb4+  6. Nbd2  Qe7  7. a3 



Qd6???  8. exd6  Nce5  9. axb4 ...

Here, I put the Mystery out of its misery, albeit not with a hammer but just the on/off button. And I assumed the manual for the Mephisto Chess Challenger to be not completely compatible with what is needed for Mephisto Mystery ... until I realized that when I set Mystery's level, the display had shown 0:30:99, which is associated with a Blitz level of 30 minutes.

So, unless there was something wrong with Mystery's memory - which is very rare - I assumed just resetting the computer would correct its weird behaviour. So I took the batteries out (and in again, of course).

And then the Mystery computer lost another game against Rybka, but this time not in such a silly way:

[Site "Overtom Amsterdam"]
[Date "2006.01.12"]
[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 32-bit"]
[Black "Mephisto Mystery, Tom"]
1. d4  d5 2. Nf3  Nf6  3. c4  e6  4. Bg5  Be7  5. Nc3  O-O  6. Rc1  b6  7. cxd5  exd5  8. e3  c6  9. Bd3  Na6  10. Ne5  Nb4  11. Be2  Nd7  12. Bxe7  Qxe7  13. Nxd7  Qxd7  14. Qa4  a5  15. a3  Na6  16. O-O  Re8  17. Bd3  f5  18. Qb3  b5  19. Ne2  Bb7  20. h4  g6  21. Nf4  Re7  22. a4  Nb4  23. axb5  cxb5 


From now on, things go terribly wrong for black:

24. Rc5  Bc6  25. Rfc1  Rd8  26. Rxc6  Nxc6  27. Bxb5  Nxd4  28. exd4  Qb7  29. Nxd5  Rf7  30. Rc7  Qxd5  31. Bc4  Kh8  32. Rxf7  Qxd4  33. Qg3  Re8  34. Be6  f4  35. Qg5  Rxe6  36. Qh6  Re1+  37. Kh2  Rh1+  38. Kxh1  Qd1+  39. Kh2  Qh1+  40. Kxh1  f3 



Here white could have checkmated with: 41. Qxh7+

Instead, white made some frivolous moves: 41. Rxh7+  Kg8  42. Qxg6+  Kf8  43. Qf5+  Kg8  44. Qf7#  1-0

So blushingly I admit Idon't really need the manual for the Mephisto Mystery since your remark that the Mephisto Chess Challenger has (more or less) the same manual, is absolutely correct.

With best regards,

tom
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 02:33AM »
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Hello Tom,

Quote from: Overtom on December 29, 2005, 03:40PM   

5MMM5, or my 5th plea for the Manual of the Mephisto Mystery in 2005 ...

Now that the year 2005 seems to end in a spate of requests for manuals, I would like to join and make a renwed plea if anyone can supply the manual for the Mephisto Mystery.

Thanking the generous supplier in advance,

tom

Sorry for the late answer (was not online until now!)

Don't get me wrong, but: Do you really need it? As i told you before, Centurion/Mephisto Chess Challenger/GK2100 and Mystery and also their manuals are (nearly) identical. The only difference, that i know are the study positions of the Centurion (the Mystery doesn't have these IIRC) and the CPU-Speed.

I did not intend to scan the Mystery manual for myself, because I already have the pdf for the Mephisto Challenger/Centurion (engl./german)

I am not sure, if my Mystery manual is german only or multilingual...

Would you still want a german version, if no other is available?


Robert
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2005, 10:31AM »
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Sorry to hear you're still hunting this one down Tom

This is a long shot but did you try to check with the folks from www.classicchessandgames.com?

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5MMM5, or my 5th plea for the Manual of the Mephisto Mystery in 2005 ...

Now that the year 2005 seems to end in a spate of requests for manuals, I would like to join and make a renwed plea if anyone can supply the manual for the Mephisto Mystery.

Thanking the generous supplier in advance,

tom
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