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« on: March 3, 2006, 06:06AM »
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Hi Tom 



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Although it's a trick, the Turk not only was (and is) a great mechanical accomplishment, but also a fine example of the art of conjuring.


Whaat! - you mean it wasn't real!!! I'm gutted 



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By the way, speaking about artificial chessmachines, yesterday I had Chessmaster 8000 playing against Fritz 7 on my computer. It was obviously such a great strain on the computer's brain that for the the first time I witnessed a system crash of Windows XP. The question remains of course: was it Fritz or the Chesmmaster which caused the crash. I must confess I'm at a loss, but maybe someone else has an idea.



Were you running CM8k through Chessbase gui? I don't have CM8K but have had never had problems with 9K or 10th running in Fritz 7 GUI. IIRC some earlier CM versions had problems with The King engine hogging CPU resources.

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« Reply #1 on: March 3, 2006, 03:03AM »
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Quote from: Ismenio on March  2, 2006, 06:05PM   

Hi Tom,
Let me know if you still can't play the videos. I have them downloaded and can upload them on a server so you can get them. (And anyone who is having problems)
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Thanks, Ismenio, the links appear to work again and I enjoyed watching the video.

     

Although it's a trick, the Turk not only was (and is) a great mechanical accomplishment, but also a fine example of the art of conjuring. After all, it managed to fascinate imaginative minds such as Edgar Allan Poe's.

     

What struck me when watching the video was that the operator sometimes had to move the Turk's chessmen by hand. I don't know if this was explained in the spoken introduction since the sound on my laptop computer was not loud enough to understand the German text (the so-called "redundancy" required to understand a foreign language is much greater than when hearing your mother's tongue).

Would this manual assistance mean that the mechanical operation of the original Turk was better than the one that can be seen at Paderborn?

By the way, speaking about artificial chessmachines, yesterday I had Chessmaster 8000 playing against Fritz 7 on my computer. It was obviously such a great strain on the computer's brain that for the the first time I witnessed a system crash of Windows XP. The question remains of course: was it Fritz or the Chesmmaster which caused the crash. I must confess I'm at a loss, but maybe someone else has an idea.

Then there is a last question - which I can answer (but won't for now): which computer won?

Turkish delight regards,

tom
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Let me know if you still can't play the videos. I have them downloaded and can upload them on a server so you can get them. (And anyone who is having problems)

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 03:24PM »
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Very nice pictures! Unfortunately, I couldn't get the video links working.

I am very much interested in the Turk. Five hundred days ago I wrote a short essay about it, which can be read at:

    http://overtom.nl/weblog/14OCT04.html

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 06:55AM »
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For those who missed this. Great accomplishment by the Germans (no wonder that seems to be the Geographic center for chess computers! ) - they recreated a working replica of the famous Turk. You can even watch it on video.

Link to the article (German): http://www.hnf.de/Schachtuerke/index.html

Direct link to the videos:
http://www.hnf.de/media/schachtuerke/Schachtuerke_56k.wmv dial-up Windows Media)
http://www.hnf.de/Schachtuerke_300k.wmv (Cable/DSL Windows Media (best quality))
http://www.hnf.de/media/schachtuerke/Schachtuerke_56k.rm (dial-up Real Media)
http://www.hnf.de/media/schachtuerke/Schachtuerke_300k.rm (Cable/DSL Real Media)

ChessBase.com has an article in English, from Dec 2004:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1574

Intro to the article:
Von Kempelen's Chess Turk recreated
12.04.2004 In 1769 the Hungarian engineer Baron Wolfgang von Kempelen built a chess playing machine for the amusement of the Austrian Queen Maria Theresia. It was a mechanical device, shaped like a Turk, and it became the most famous automaton in history. Now the Heinz Nixdorf Museum in Paderborn has produced an incredible working replica of the Turk.








Does anybody know if there's anyone selling miniatures of the Turk? I saw one at the Chess Museum in Miami, Florida (looked die cast).

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