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« on: March 26, 2006, 03:25AM »
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Thanks Robert,

He does want the Renaissance back, to be fair it's in such a poor condition that it would break my heart to play it so I probably wouldn't use it......

It'll go back this week so fingers crossed he's honest and send me back the money.........

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2006, 04:31AM »
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Quote from: Wardy on March 24, 2006, 02:19AM   

Well the Renaissance turned up.............in a very sorry state 

I'd asked the seller about some marks I thought I could see in the ebay picture and was told that the board was fine when clean............well it wasn't!! Not only were the marks visible and deep, he's neglected to mention that there was a massive cigarette burn to the flap and that the flaps hinge mechanism was broken.........

At my first Renaissance the left hinge was broken, but nevertheles the flap stays in its place...

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But worst of all the guy sent it through the post wrapped only in a bin liner!!!!  >:(    >:(  no packing! no bubblewrap!!

But that'a crime!!  >:( That's, how my Intelligent Chess became damaged...

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Consequently all the corners had taken damage, unsurprisingly enough.

Condolences from me! 

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To be fair the guy has offered me a full refund, just hope he delivers on that........

And does he want the R. back? 


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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006, 02:19AM »
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Well the Renaissance turned up.............in a very sorry state 

I'd asked the seller about some marks I thought I could see in the ebay picture and was told that the board was fine when clean............well it wasn't!! Not only were the marks visible and deep, he's neglected to mention that there was a massive cigarette burn to the flap and that the flaps hinge mechanism was broken.........

But worst of all the guy sent it through the post wrapped only in a bin liner!!!!  >:(    >:(  no packing! no bubblewrap!!

Consequently all the corners had taken damage, unsurprisingly enough.

To be fair the guy has offered me a full refund, just hope he delivers on that........

My search continues 
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 11:10PM »
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I had started to make the cable but had not finished when this auction appeared on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8769406292

It was the Apple II version of the cable and I had to use my soldering iron to change the connector (I have four Apple IIs in my cellar  but the Apple II was not the target)

And I am using a cradle with a serial cable to connect the Renaissance to the Pocket PC.
Of course, I also did some tests with the PC but I did not write any code yet for the PC.

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 02:22PM »
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Quote from: Alain Zanchetta on March 15, 2006, 11:56AM   

Hi,
As of today, I can record a game played on my Renaissance on my Pocket PC (moves, evaluation, best line) 
Within the next few days, I hope to be able to send and retrieve positions to and from the Renaissance.


Fantastic!!!! How have you connected the board to your Pocket PC?

Has anyone cracked recreating the PC interface cable? I've looked at the schematics and it looks a little daunting for someone how last touched a soldering iron at school!! 

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 11:56AM »
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Hi,

Quote from: Wardy on March 15, 2006, 06:39AM   

Well a photocopy of the Renaissance manual turned up in this mornings post from the kind folks at Saitek. Hats off to them for customer service!
Really interested to see the ideas about recreating the PC interface cable and the potential to link to chess software, just hope someone can pull it off!

As of today, I can record a game played on my Renaissance on my Pocket PC (moves, evaluation, best line) 
Within the next few days, I hope to be able to send and retrieve positions to and from the Renaissance.

Best,

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Re:English Manual For Renaissance
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2006, 09:05AM »
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Posting anything abroad from the UK is expensive, and if the total weight is over 2Kgs and bigger than 900mm L+ H+ W it cannot go as a 'packet' and the post office now check all of this very carefully. Go over these limits and it has to be sent by 'Parcel' which then becomes MEGA expensive.

Compare this to the German postal service which allows parcels to be sent to the UK up to 5Kgs for a flat rate 17Euros.... bargain !!.

Yep, 'Rip off' Britain.  >:(

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Well a photocopy of the Renaissance manual turned up in this mornings post from the kind folks at Saitek. Hats off to them for customer service!

Still waiting for the unit to arrive however. 

Really interested to see the ideas about recreating the PC interface cable and the potential to link to chess software, just hope someone can pull it off!

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2006, 11:36AM »
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You'll get no argument from me!

"Rip Off" Britain is no joke, almost everything you can think of is more expensive here then on the continent or of inferior standard.

I look forward to the Euro should the rest my fellow "Islanders" wake up and smell the coffe!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2006, 11:09AM »
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Alain

You make an important point about international transactions from the UK. Bank transfer involving English banks is only really a viable proposition if you are transferring large amounts. There is a flat rate charge for the service (which is laughably called SWIFT  ) which for my bank is 30 Euros. Many English banks charge more, 45 Euros plus is quite possible.

Paypal or cash in an envelope are really the only two alternatives. Putting bank notes in an envelope sounds risky but it is as safe as any method I have found. If you send money by insured post it is more likely to disappear.

The bank system, and the ridiculously expensive postal service, are reasons for never buying British chess computers. 

Vive l'Euro
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2006, 10:11AM »
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my last experience with a computer bought in the UK from a seller who does not accept paypal :

Computer = Saitek Kasparov Blitz for 33,01 = 48,33 Euros...
a real bargain 
but...
Shipping to France = 25 = 36,60 Euros
but...
bank commission for international transfer not in Euro Zone = 45,45 Euros !!!
Total = 130,38 Euros, still ok for a Kasparov Blitz + Shipping but 2,70 times the initial price 

Vive l'Euro !!! (or at least paypal  )
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 03:14AM »
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Hello Robert,

I am based in the UK so postage wasn't too expensive! I feel quite good about the price now  just hope that the unit is OK when it arrives.

I think I may have sourced an English manual from Saitek themselves, fingers crossed!

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 12:09AM »
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Hello Paul,


Quote from: Wardy on March 12, 2006, 01:42PM   

I take it you found the listing on the bay? Didn't know if 114 was a good price or not to be honest!

If you are located in the UK, then the price is very good! But postage to the continent for such a big computer is very expensive (i would estimate it to about 30 GBP; i am not sure about the weight)

Maybe this scared some collectors off! I told a friend about this auction (he is searching for a Renaissance for a long time), but he did not bid, so i assume it was too expensive for him! (or he forgot it!  )


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Thanks for the reply Mike,

I take it you found the listing on the bay? Didn't know if 114 was a good price or not to be honest! Guess as it was listed as a sensory board with no reference to make or model it would have gone under the radar of some collectors? Thought it was a good place to start collecting decent machines..............

Thanks for the offer of a photcopy, I'll let you know how I get on and if I struggle to work the machine!

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Re:English Manual For Renaissance
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2006, 12:49PM »
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Hi Wardy

A Renaissance for that money has to be a steal.

I do not know if there is an Internet source for an English manual. Alain has the French part of the manual, as you say, and there is a German part here :-

http://www.alte-schachcomputer.de/bdaauswahl.htm

Let me know if you want an English photocopy and also how you get on with the Renaissance.

All the best
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English Manual For Renaissance
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2006, 07:59AM »
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Hi,

I've been lurking around on this forum for a little while and I have to say it's nice to know that I'm not the only one with an unhealthy interest in chess computers!!!

After reading a lot of the historical posts I got interested in obtaining a Kasparov Renaissance and I've just landed one on ebay!!! However it doesn't have it's manual or box  does anyone have a link or scan of an English manual? I've seen a link for the French version and it seems 75% similar to my Kasparov Prisma but my French isn't brilliant and I could be wildly wrong!!

I'm now on the lookout for a SPARC module.........but then isn't everyone?!

Thanks for any help
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