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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« on: May 30, 2006, 08:37PM »
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    It sounds like the excalibur isn't too reliable, from what everybody's been saying!  Maybe
    I should just get a Mephisto Senator for an auto-sensory unit?!
   
 
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2006, 08:15PM »
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Yes, mine doesnt let you take the captured piece first either, but I would be happy if that was the only problem

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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 04:17AM »
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Hi,


there is one (to me!) annoying thing with the GM, that i just remembered:

if you want to catch a piece, you first have to lift the catching piece, take away the opponent's piece and then set your piece on the destination field.

I usually first take away the opponent's piece, but this is not accepted by the GM...


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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2006, 02:40PM »
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I just got my My Grandmaster a fe wmonths ago and it has already been replaced, and the new one has the same problem(s).  When playing and moving a piece incorrerctly, or to the  wrong place, or not lifting it high enough to avoid having it sense incorrectly, it says "error". but then it locks up and wont allow me to verify the position or take back the move in order to  put the piece back, I can't do anything at all then. Sometimes it says that there is a piece where there isn't one anymore, and when trying to place whatever it says is supposed to be there it says error etc. (how would you ever be able to move something from there???)
The only way to continue is to cancel the whole game and set up the same position, disrupting the flow of the game. For me it is an unpleasant system to play chess against.  I am sure that it isn't just me not understanding it.
I bough it on EBAY and they, at excallibur, said that that didnt matter, they woulkd still warranty it for a year, but I wonder if they send factory seconds, or questionable units to EBAY orders. I don't want to keep spending money to ship them back, hoping that someday I might get a good one, lol.
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 06:09AM »
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Quote from: Robert Weck on May 22, 2006, 02:14AM   


Quote from: thx1138 on May 21, 2006, 06:36PM   

  Mmm....I read a few reviews of the GM on Amazon and there were a few disappointed
  buyers.  I did want to get an affordable auto-sensory unit. Do you know anything about
  the Mephisto Saitek Senator?  I know it cost alot more than the Excalibur GM, but if it works
  ok then it might be worth it.

In my opinion, the Senator is the by far better choice (when i disregard the price)

You get a beautiful wooden board (i also don't like the pieces of the GM; IMO they are too fat! (especially the pawns) )

The Senator plays about 200-300 points stronger than the GM.

The GM has some bugs, e.g. if you check the evaluation with the "Score" button, the permanent brain is disabled for this move!

It is not possible to see the move, the GM is thinking about!

I can't say something negative regarding the reliability; i have the GM and no problems so far. But it's the same with the Exclusive boards.

OTH, the GM is much cheaper... 

IMO, the GM takes up too much space, but if you prefer a tournament size board, then the GM could be your choice!

If you are stronger or near the 2000 USCF (should be about 1700-1750 FIDE-ELO,correct?) and want to improve your play over this limit, then you should prefer the Senator!


Hope, this helps,
Robert



Exist another kind...
GM uses a battery, and Senator uses a eletric cabs...
So, GM is possible play in any place, but Senator no.
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 05:56AM »
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Quote from: thx1138 on May 23, 2006, 07:29PM   


    Thanks for the posts everbody. I'd really like to buy both computers, but I don't
    think my wife would be too keen on the idea!  I might even consider selling one of my
    older computers to help buy them.  I have an old Fidelity Mach IV and a Mephisto Berlin
    Pro that are in pretty good condition. Does anybody know how much these computers are
    worth? 




Hello,

at my point of view you should keep them too...
But I have a almost new Senator to offer. Maybe we can arrange s.th. (swap Senator plus$ against Excel Mach IV).

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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 11:18PM »
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Quote from: thx1138 on May 23, 2006, 07:29PM   

I have an old Fidelity Mach IV and a Mephisto Berlin
    Pro that are in pretty good condition.

You should keep them...
Anyway, here are a few sales I saw on ebay (there are RARE computers) :
Berlin Pro : 665 Euros in feb 06, 452 Euros Aug 05, 251 Euros may 05, 335 Euros feb 05...
Mach IV :
a) never seen a Excel Mach IV for sale on ebay
b) Designer Mach IV : 473 Euros nov 05, 326 Euros jan 05, 477 Euros dec 04...

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Alain
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 07:29PM »
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    Thanks for the posts everbody. I'd really like to buy both computers, but I don't
    think my wife would be too keen on the idea!  I might even consider selling one of my
    older computers to help buy them.  I have an old Fidelity Mach IV and a Mephisto Berlin
    Pro that are in pretty good condition. Does anybody know how much these computers are
    worth? 

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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 02:14AM »
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Quote from: thx1138 on May 21, 2006, 06:36PM   

  Mmm....I read a few reviews of the GM on Amazon and there were a few disappointed
  buyers.  I did want to get an affordable auto-sensory unit. Do you know anything about
  the Mephisto Saitek Senator?  I know it cost alot more than the Excalibur GM, but if it works
  ok then it might be worth it.

In my opinion, the Senator is the by far better choice (when i disregard the price)

You get a beautiful wooden board (i also don't like the pieces of the GM; IMO they are too fat! (especially the pawns) )

The Senator plays about 200-300 points stronger than the GM.

The GM has some bugs, e.g. if you check the evaluation with the "Score" button, the permanent brain is disabled for this move!

It is not possible to see the move, the GM is thinking about!

I can't say something negative regarding the reliability; i have the GM and no problems so far. But it's the same with the Exclusive boards.

OTH, the GM is much cheaper... 

IMO, the GM takes up too much space, but if you prefer a tournament size board, then the GM could be your choice!

If you are stronger or near the 2000 USCF (should be about 1700-1750 FIDE-ELO,correct?) and want to improve your play over this limit, then you should prefer the Senator!


Hope, this helps,
Robert
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2006, 09:27PM »
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My GM has played around 100-150 games with no problems so far. I did hear the chips were hit or miss on the later senator modules. ChessUSA was opening each one to test prior to sale. If you find some, or other auto sensory wooden boards please let me know.

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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2006, 07:49PM »
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I've had a problem with my Senator. Earlier versions of the module have a potential problem with the battery which is used to store game information when the machine is off. The battery turned out to be more trouble than it was worth, preventing the machine from resetting it's memory by any method -- except by removing the battery completely.

But apparently the new newer Senators don't have this problem, and Saitek will fix your module for you, if by any chance you have the defective hardware.
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2006, 06:36PM »
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  Hello Ismenio,

  Mmm....I read a few reviews of the GM on Amazon and there were a few disappointed
  buyers.  I did want to get an affordable auto-sensory unit. Do you know anything about
  the Mephisto Saitek Senator?  I know it cost alot more than the Excalibur GM, but if it works
  ok then it might be worth it.
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Re: Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2006, 01:54PM »
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Hi thx1138,

I am curious to hear if others have anything to say about this. Mine still works fine but I has only been out of the box no more than 4 times so I can't say much. But I heard from two others who had trouble with their units. Something with the reed switches!

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Re: Excalibur Grandmaster
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2006, 07:41PM »
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      Hi everybody-  I new to this site and this is
      my first post. I've been thinking about buying
      an Excalibur GM computer and was wondering
      how reliable these machines are?  Are there
      many defects?  Does the auto-sensory work
      ok?  Also, is there a difference between an Ex-
      calibur GM and a Excalibur Karpov GM?  Thanks
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