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« on: May 13, 2007, 07:30PM »
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Thanks for that information. I'll keep an eye out for a complete set with the plastic case

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Re:Radio Shack 1650
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2007, 03:36AM »
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Quote from: RavenJA on May 10, 2007, 11:21PM   

I've never seen this model in person but I've noticed that the pieces are stored in a compartment with a flip top lid.  Does the piece compartment come separately or is it integrated into the machine?

Thank you,
James

Hello James,

As you correctly observed, the chessmen are indeed stored in a separate black plastic box measuring about 14 x 14 x 2 cm. This box was sold with the computer, but as you can see (or more accurately: cannot see ) in the picture, it does not form part of the computer itself.

For one moment I thought you were referring to the semicylindrical compartment at the far side of the computer. But that compartment - which I don't regard as Saitek's cleverest invention - is for batteries. 



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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 11:21PM »
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Hello,

I'm looking to purchase a Radio Shack 1650 fast response computer on ebay and I have a question.

I've never seen this model in person but I've noticed that the pieces are stored in a compartment with a flip top lid.  Does the piece compartment come separately or is it integrated into the machine?

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« Reply #3 on: May 9, 2007, 06:15AM »
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Quote from: Overtom on May  8, 2007, 12:45PM   

Hello Phil,

I don't have the manual you need in English, but if you want I can make a copy of the French, Dutch or German manual. It's up to you which one.

With best regards,

tom


I think spacious_mind answered my main questions about the unit which is what the different level settings are.

Thanks for the offer though!

-Phil
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Re:Radio Shack 1650
« Reply #4 on: May 8, 2007, 06:51PM »
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Quote from: spacious_mind on May  8, 2007, 03:23PM   

If you play 1.f3 on both they also do not reply with the same move, which makes me think that the software could be different or set differently.


I just finished a clone test on both my Fast Responses and my previous statement is incorrect, when I tried the 1.f3 test it may have been a different level setting or a fluke.  They play identically.

However I added to this test my Companion II, RS1650 Travel and Scisys Explorer.

Everyone of these plays identically although they all respond with their moves at different times.  All were set at 1min/move (which was a setting common to all machines) Companion II replies with its move very fast, Fast Response responds next, followed by Explorer and 1650 is last. 

Based on this the true "Fast Response" champion would be Companion II 

It seems that Kaare Danielsen is the programmer for all these machines:

Companion II = Concord II = Explorer = Tandy/RadioShack Fast Response 1650 = Tandy/Radioshack 1650

Does anyone know of anymore which could be added to this list?
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« Reply #5 on: May 8, 2007, 03:23PM »
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I also do not have a manual for the 1650 Travel computer, but I think that the 1650 is the same as the Scysis Explorer.  If someone else has both perhaps they could confirm this.

The Scysis Explorer has the following level settings:

0 - 2 sec/move
1 - 5 sec
2 - 15 sec
3 - 1 min
4 - 2 min
5 - 3 min
6 - 8 min
7 - 2 hours
8 - Infinite/problem mode

With regards to the 1650 Fast Response, I have noticed that there are 2 versions, 1 made for Tandy/Radioshack by Scysis and the other made by Saitek.  When you place them next to each other you can tell a difference.  The Saitek board looks a little more plasticky.

If you play 1.f3 on both they also do not reply with the same move, which makes me think that the software could be different or set differently.

If anyone knows more about these machines please share!! 

The Fast Response also have 9 levels but set differently.
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Re:Radio Shack 1650
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Quote from: PhilFromIT on May  8, 2007, 11:27AM   

Actually I am missing the manual to this one: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tluif/chescom/EngTan1650.html It has 9 levels and plays quite well. Radio shack online only has the manual for the 1650L which is a slightly different model (and only in spanish).

Any help would be appreciated!

(marriage is hard on a guy's computer chess collection  )

-Phil


Hello Phil,

I don't have the manual you need in English, but if you want I can make a copy of the French, Dutch or German manual. It's up to you which one.

With best regards,

tom
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Quote from: latco01 on December 23, 2006, 03:01PM   

My son, who is 8 and loves chess, also got  this game and I was hoping the very kind person who has the instructions would be so kind as to email me a copy??  I would be eternally grateful.  latco01@ca.com is my email.  Thank you so much!!! 

I know three Tandy/Radio Shack games named 1650, all to be seen at:

    http://overtom.nl/chescom/EngTAN.html

I probably have the manual of at least one of them. It may be useful if you point out which computer you need the manual for.

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Actually I am missing the manual to this one: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tluif/chescom/EngTan1650.html It has 9 levels and plays quite well. Radio shack online only has the manual for the 1650L which is a slightly different model (and only in spanish).

Any help would be appreciated!

(marriage is hard on a guy's computer chess collection  )

-Phil
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Quote from: latco01 on December 23, 2006, 03:01PM   

My son, who is 8 and loves chess, also got  this game and I was hoping the very kind person who has the instructions would be so kind as to email me a copy??  I would be eternally grateful.  latco01@ca.com is my email.  Thank you so much!!! 

I know three Tandy/Radio Shack games named 1650, all to be seen at:

    http://overtom.nl/chescom/EngTAN.html

I probably have the manual of at least one of them. It may be useful if you point out which computer you need the manual for.

With best regards,

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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2006, 03:01PM »
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My son, who is 8 and loves chess, also got  this game and I was hoping the very kind person who has the instructions would be so kind as to email me a copy??  I would be eternally grateful.  latco01@ca.com is my email.  Thank you so much!!! 
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« Reply #10 on: December 9, 2006, 02:28AM »
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Quote from: diane on November 17, 2006, 07:30AM   

HI, I am hoping someone can help me find the directions, or the instructions booklet for the radio shack 1650.  If someone has them and can copy them I will reimburse them, or if they can scan them and email I would so appreciate the help.  This was given to my 11year old son, who likes chess, but we just can't figure out how to work the darn thing.  Thank you for your time.  Diane

Do you speak spanish ?
If yes, a manual for the 1650L is here:
http://support.radioshack.com/support_games/doc67/67647.pdf
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Re:Radio Shack 1650
« Reply #11 on: December 9, 2006, 12:47AM »
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Thanks, I don't have many Radio Shack manuals online.

My email is in my profile,

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« Reply #12 on: December 8, 2006, 04:50PM »
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I have the instructions for that Radio Shack chess game and would be happy to send you a scanned copy.
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HI, I am hoping someone can help me find the directions, or the instructions booklet for the radio shack 1650.  If someone has them and can copy them I will reimburse them, or if they can scan them and email I would so appreciate the help.  This was given to my 11year old son, who likes chess, but we just can't figure out how to work the darn thing.  Thank you for your time.  Diane
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2006, 03:11AM »
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Here is another 1650 Fast Response on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120013976558

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2006, 01:44AM »
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  Tracy,
  Sorry I got a bit confused and directed my post to Ismenio by mistake 

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2006, 01:40AM »
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Hi Ismenio,
  Have you had a positive response to your request for an
owners' manual for an RS1850?
  The reason I'm asking is that down here in Australia we
have a Tandy elsctronics store, where you have the 'Radio
Shack' store chain. I'm assuming you are in the US. Tandy have the "Tandy 1850" chess computer, and I've had a look at a picture of the RS1850 and I'm fairly certain it's the same
machine. Made in China under license for Radio Shack or Tandy. I've got a Tandy1850 with the owners' manual, and would be happy to email you a copy of it's contents, if you are interested.
  Look forward to being able to help.
 
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2006, 09:00PM »
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Whew!  I finally found one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160010756297&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

$55, including shipping.  Oh, well, I got the Radio Shack 1850 for about $13, including shipping.  Go figure. 

On an unrelated note, does anyone out there have the owner's manual for the RS 1850?  I've looked everywhere I know to look.  I'd be happy to reimburse someone for their time and efforts if they could photocopy and mail it to me, or scan it and email it to me. 

Thanks for much for the wonderful community, Ismenio. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 1, 2006, 04:54PM »
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Quote from: TracyMiller on June 30, 2006, 09:02AM   

It's bizzare how one can become attached to something like a chess computer.  I'm waxing nostalgic, I guess.  But many people develop this for all kinds of things, from Matchbox cars to Barbie dolls. 

I recently got the chess computer bug, and am amassing quite a collection.  I got an RS 1850 on ebay for $5.99, and it plays and looks great.  I have Excalibur's Grandmaster on the way.


Hi Tracy, and welcome. I, and I am sure many others here, know what feeling all too well
And congratulations on your new acquisitions. Since you mentioned Barbie, you may want to take a look at this entry from Tom Luif's weblog: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tluif/weblog/16APR05.html


Quote from: TracyMiller on June 30, 2006, 09:02AM   

Also ordered Excalibur's King Arthur and Alexandra the Great chess games.  Also Excalibur's LCD Chess Express.  I have an RS 1650 on the way, but it is the peg-style game, not the RS 1650 pressure-sensitive board.  There's one being auctioned now from Australia (along with the RS 1850, but I'm not so sure I want to pay shipping from there to Tennessee).  Maybe I'll hold out and wait for one show up here in the U.S.

I also recently got a 1979 Fidelity "The Classic" on eBay for $0.99.  It powers on, but many of the squares are non-functional, although some work just fine.  I wonder if anyone knows of a way to get it repaired. 

Great forum.  I'm glad I found it. 


$0.99 for that Classic certainly adds you to the list of those few privileged ones who have found deals like that!

Would you consider trying to repair it yourself? Some here have tried that with success. Looks like your problem is with the sensors and that may not be too hard to fix. If you’re not comfortable doing that you could also try to find someone with some experience with electronics. There is also the possibility of sending it to Arno Kreuzberg in Germany but you have to consider the costs. Details here: http://schachcomputer.at/reparaturen.htm

We’re glad you found us! I found out that one of the best things about collecting the computers is sharing ideas, experiences and knowledge with fellow collectors. I’ve learned a lot from every single one of them. Be that a new collector or some who are doing this for decades.

Best regards,

Ismenio
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2006, 05:41PM »
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G'day Tracy,

I actually have my eye on the Tandy 1650 & 1850 eBay auction in Australia because I want the Tandy 1850 but I do not want the Tandy 1650.  I already have a Tandy 1650 and I only want the Tandy 1850 so that I can repair my Scisys Turbo 16k.  So, if I win this auction, I would be willing to send the Tandy 1650 to you at cost price if it still works out to be economically viable for you.

Cheers,
Tom.
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