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« Reply #20 on: January 4, 2011, 03:48:36 PM »
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Evening to all--I have been checking and have seen a Rev. John Gilliland(#2) in Ala. about the same time that MY Rev. John comes into Madison Co., Al. Both moved down into Blount Co., then into DEKalb Co., Ala. This John is said to be John (Alexander) Gilliland that Married Rebecca McBrayer on 10 Apr., 1811, & she was b. 1794 at Cowspen, N.Carolina & d. 1849. John was B. 1792 & d. 1835. Their children are
1: Byers Doyle, b. Sept. 15, 1814; 2: Wiley Buford, b. May 10, 1816, d. 1875; David McBrayer, b. May 7, 1818(in Crossville, DeKalb Co.,Ala.) ,d. 1900; Mary Jane, b. 1828, D.1901; Amanda, b. 1831, d. ??
Some have his father as David Gilliland( 1755-1827) and others as Samuel T. & his Father as Robert.
Being that I am having a hard time getting around my brickwall with MY Rev. John, I'll try this line an see where I get. The two John's are, I Think, from the same family Line. They are not Bro/bro's or Uncle/ Nephew, but I'm  sure Cousin/cousin. This then should lead back to the correct family line---If it can be followed.

Any one with any data on this Rev. John???????????

Mel
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« Reply #21 on: August 8, 2011, 11:25:31 PM »
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Hello all,

The nice thing about a brick wall is that it stands about anything you throw at it.  There is a minister named James Gilliland Jr. that taught at an academy in Spartanburg SC and married a Nesbitt girl.  Naming patterns between This James Gilleland, Jr born about 1772/74 and John H Gilliland seem to be closely linked, as well as moving in the census.  He could be a possible father for John H Gilliland.  Anyone tried to make this link? It seems to have some merit. 

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2012, 08:16:28 PM »
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O.K. got it to work!!! It's been some time since I have posted--but I have been working on getting the answer to Paul's question about WHO is Rev. John(Sarah) Gilliand father?? I have looked at 40 X 11million  James Gillilands and have some opinions.

First--let me say I'm not trying to alienate anyone. It's just in looking at all the post of who his father is--it has become apparent that a lot of the  postings, that are using GenCom Trails from others, that They think will match. As a result- a lot of the postings are incorrect.

The Rev. John(Sarah) did come down from Tenn.--BUT he is not a son/ Descendant of the John Gillilands of Cocke Co., Tenn. , but -as per Dna Testing, he is from the same tap root!! He is also NOT a descendant of Alexander, b. 1737; d. 1795 -or- James Alexander Gilliland, b. 1769-son of Alexander-or John, b. 1772- son of Alexander. This James & John went into Red Oaks, Ohio. I think this is well Documented. Unless some can show they went into Tenn. - then they can not be Rev. John(Sarah) Gilliland's father.

There is another James Alexander Gilliland, b. 1771 that did go into Tenn.  This James also fits my criteria requirements for being Rev. John's father.

I have posted before --but-- 1st Criteria- we know how the old people would name there children. The first son would be named after the Father--or-father's- father. The second son would be named after the one that the first son was not named after -or the mother's father. The first daughter would be named after the mother-or the mother of the parents of the child; one of the child's grandmother's.

After that children would be named after the parents brother's-sister's -OR- favorite Aunt-Uncle.

There is only one James that meets this criteria!! ALL!! of the other John-James Ect. does not have  a connection to the Nesbitt family.  The James Alexander Gilliland -m- (Nancy?)  Jane Nesbitt, daughter of Samuel Nesbitt & Nancy (Unk.) Nesbitt of Spartanburg, South Carolina

This James Alexander Gilliland was also a Reverend.
Will Book A--pg. 109-111
L.W. & T. of Samuel Nesbitt of Dist. of Spartanburgh; rec. 19 May 1817; to my son-in-law The Revd. James Gilleland, all that plantation I purchased of Bulow in possession of sd. Gilleland and negros(named) : to my Grandson samuel nesbitt Gilleland one negroBob: to my granddaughter Nancy Gilleland, $250; to my son-in-law Joshua Benson,
plantation on South Tygar river, about 600 A, which I purchased from Dyson & Smith, also negros(named); to grandson Samuel Nesbitt Benson, $250: to wife Nancy nesbitt, $300 annually; to my son Wilson Nesbitt, residue of my money, lands, Chattels; son Wilson & James Gilleland, Exrs; 3 Sept. 1816: Samuel Nisbitt(LS)
Wit; James Swanzy, Hugh Baley, John Brason(?)
Proven by Hugh Baley and Col. Wilson Nesbitt and James Gilleland; qualified 5 May 1817, W. Lancaster O.S.D.

This shows connection to Samuel Nesbitt. This Samuel also gave James his Collage Education, as James's  father was not able to.

This James Alexander, 1771 IS being mixed with the James Alexander 1769. This James 1771 is found on the 1810 Federal Census for Spartanburg Dist., South Carolina with two males under 10;two males 10-15; One male 26-44; two females under 10; and one female 26-44.. This James Alexander died in Copiah Co., Miss.,  2 Oct., 1824---- NOT IN RED OAKS, OHIO.

Rev. John (Sarah) Gilliland has named their first Children James Alexander( after John's father) Their daughter Nancy Nesbeth(Nesbitt), after Rev. John's  mother!! and their second son William Brasier after Sarah's family!!

It is said that this James Alexander Gilleland is the son of John Gilleland/Gilliland of County Antrim, Ireland. and died Pendleton District, S. C., 16 Oct., 1817. His Obits was in the Winyaw Intelligencer, Georgetown, Georgetown County, S.C.  John had a brother Hugh Gilleland/Gilliland b. abt 1701, Antrim, Ireland  and died  1751 in Lancaster
County, Penn.--both brother left Ireland and came into Lancaster co. , Penn.

Again--if anyone has DOC'S to prove -or- disprove email me at wootan900@hotmail.com or post on this site.

have a good evening-----------Mel
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2014, 04:24:23 PM »
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Ok, Now that I have read all the posts here re John H Gilliland I am more confused than ever. I am the third great grandson of Byers Doyle "BD" Gilliland 1814-1850 and 2nd wife Emily Elizabeth Patterson>their son John Edward Gilliland 1838-1897 and wife Charlotte Naomi >their son William Bonapart Gilliland, 1863-1914 and his 2nd wife Wadie ElviraTurner > their son Hoyt E. Gilliland, 1890-1934 and wife Hattie Alice Melton > Peggy Lou Gilliland, 1928-1999 (my mother)  and 1st  husband R.D. Smith.
I have always been under the impression that the Rev. John Alexander Gilliland 1792 and wife Rebecca McBrayer are the parents of Brayer Doyle Gilliland, and John Gilliland circa 1750 Spartanburg South Carolina and wife Agnes S Gilliland were Rev. John Alexander’s parents. Can anyone clarify this for me? I know Breyers Doyle, John Edward, and William Bonaparte are all part of the Gilliland DNA list one. It just seems to me there should be more correct information available considering the number of people researching the Gilliland name and its derivatives. Help!

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« Reply #24 on: February 6, 2015, 05:47:20 AM »
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Rod,

I've done a lot of research on the Gilliland families and I have not been able to prove who John's parents were... yet. This is the information that I've found on him to date: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~elsinger/gilliland/p4.htm#i91

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« Reply #25 on: May 5, 2016, 05:22:27 PM »
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I ran out of space, so here is part II of my message, and it concerns the search for John (H?) Gilliland's family.
As I said in part I of my post, I am working on Archibald Gilliland family...
this family could cause some confusion unless NC researchers know the following:  Archibald was a young unmarried man in Pennsylvania in the 1760-70 period.  He lived mostly in York county, and like many young scotch-irish of the period, he must have felt that there were more opportunities for him in North Carolina.  So along with a few of his neighbors (Beaty family) he got a land grant from King George for a plantation in Mecklenburg county.  He may have married there, I have never been able to find his marriage record. 
I guess he and the Beatys didn't like it there, so they sold their land after only a few years, and returned to York County, Pennsylvania, and bought new land in Hopewell Twp.  I have never found any connection to the many other Gilliland branches in North or South Carolina--except they all loved the name John!
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