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 1   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: August 19, 2019, 01:11:09 PM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by RdenRhode
Morris Commercial never built a 2.2 litre version of any engine.
I can only think that someone is getting confused by the fact that the LEA Austin engines fitted into Morris Commercial badged vehicles, had a Morris badge stuck on the rocker cover.
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 2   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: August 19, 2019, 08:03:15 AM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Ray Bell
Well what was this bloke talking about then?

He sought out the 2.2-litre version of the Morris engine, yet those bore and stroke figures match the A70 (etc) engine. He's certainly convinced it's a 2.2 in that truck, and the engine he has is no Austin engine.

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 3   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: August 19, 2019, 05:16:29 AM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by RdenRhode
The LEA 2.2 litre engine is the Austin engine introduced into the LC models May 1953.
This is basically the same engine that was used in LD, Austin Taxi, and Gipsy vehicles and was later uprated to 2.52 litres when the EA models were introduced.
The bore was increased from 79.4mm to 85mm but the stroke remained at 111mm.
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 4   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: August 17, 2019, 07:19:36 PM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Ray Bell
No, he'd made a mistake about the body, that was on some other truck in a different book.

However, here are the 2.2-litre details:

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 5   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: August 13, 2019, 11:57:07 AM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Ray Bell
Now I have come across another enthusiastic owner of a couple of Morris Commercials...

In particular he has an LC5 from about 1954 which has the same bodywork as the Austin-engined one in Wilmington but it has a Morris Commercial engine.

This one, he tells me, is 2.2-litres. He has two such engines as the original one has been in pieces for many years. The truck itself was bought new by a neighbour of his in Alice Springs and he's known the truck all that time.

He also has documentation which shows a factory steel body, I should see that tomorrow and I'll photograph it to put up on this thread.

Is there further information on the 2.2-litre version of this engine?
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 6   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: July 25, 2019, 08:39:53 AM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Ray Bell
I wonder, then, if it was an Australia-only offering?

It's possible, of course, that the owner has been given the wrong information.

Thank you very much for your help with this.
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 7   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: July 25, 2019, 08:09:28 AM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by RdenRhode
Ray,
The NEB engine was designed and made by Morris Commercial and was only used in LC and PV models and unlikely to have ever been used in any other vehicles.
Morris Commercial did offer a steel pick-up body on LC types, but it was considerably different to the one in your photograph, so I would say that this one is not the factory fitted body.
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 8   WANTED / Parts Wanted / Morris LC3  on: July 21, 2019, 08:52:45 AM 
Started by Stanley | Last post by Stanley
New member would like to purchase a N/S cab door for a 1952 LC3,or information where this and other spares could be  be found.
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 9   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: July 19, 2019, 08:17:29 PM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Ray Bell
I have a lot of interest in multiple uses of engines. So when I recently stayed at a caravan park where three of these trucks were used as 'atmosphere' I took note of the fact that there were two different power units.



This truck is the most original of the three there, the park owner told me that the body rear of the cab was an original offering, though I don't recall ever having seen such a body before. I would also like to know if that's right.



Looking under the bonnet I found the Morris engine, which I don't think I've ever seen before. But in the second truck there was the one I expected to see...



...the 4-cyl version of the Austin truck six. I know this one's history, having been cut down to a four to provide a local source of replacement engines for Jeeps during the war. Then it was fitted (in a number of forms) to the Austin 16, Austin taxis, Austin Champ civilian versions, Austin Gipsy, A90 Atlantic, Nuffield tractors, Austin Healey 100, Austin-Healey 100S race cars, Austin-Healey record cars, a Bonneville record car and the Morris Commercial (and Austin version thereof) trucks.

One often hears of the wide range of uses to which the Standard Vanguard engine has been put, but this one eclipses it easily.

The third truck in the camping area was rather more delapidated:



Again, an earlier model with the Morris engine.

So, given that the engine was one I hadn't seen before I became curious about potential other uses for the engine. I was pretty sure it never saw use in a car, I thought maybe earlier Nuffield tractors?

The information I garner I am passing on to the owner, who does intend restoring one of the trucks, but I'm afraid it likely to be the Austin-engined one.

By the way, what are the torque and horsepower figures for it? And did they ever use the 2.6-litre version in a Morris Commercial?
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 10   GENERAL / Help Wanted / Re:Variety of uses for 4-cyl engine?  on: July 19, 2019, 04:10:35 PM 
Started by Ray Bell | Last post by Nigel162
Hello Ray

The 2050cc engine was used in the LC (NPFC/1), LC3 (NPFC/3), PV (NPFC/2, then NPFC/4 with double valve springs), LC4 (NPFC/5).

All had a bore of 80mm, stoke of 102mm, that you know already, but might be of interest to others, and had 42 BHP at 3250rpm.  The NPFC/5 engine developed 91 lb.ft torque at 1500 rpm.

The pre war NEB engine with the same bore and stroke was 44 BHP.

That info came from the book written by Norman Painting called Buy British and be Proud of it, which is available from the club.

What has prompted your interest in the power and torque figurers?

Regards

Nigel

(Morris Commercial Club)
morriscommercialclub@hotmail.co.uk

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