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    oldski-doosleds Message Board => Help Desk (Only) => Message started by: 2cyclemech140 on October 19, 2010, 08:22:57 AM
	

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Title: fly wheel puller
Post by: 2cyclemech140 on October 19, 2010, 08:22:57 AM

what is the part ## for a fly wheel puller for 74 400 396 F/A engine and who sells it jaw puller is too risky an with the studs sticking out everything i have doesn't work i can build a tool out of some steel plate , i think it better to buy correct tool instead ;D Thanks guys


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 2cyclemech140 on October 19, 2010, 12:23:09 PM

the part # have been updated 420 876 065 is now 529 035547 is the puller & 420876080 is now 420876081 and it is the holder , these tools are used in water craft repair currently and can be purchased through Parker in AZ for around $80 + shipping , see what happens when you have time to goof off at work :o :o


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: luckyketch on October 19, 2010, 01:04:45 PM

I bought mine from parker also. They work great.

http://www.parkeryamaha.com/seadoopuller529035547.aspx (http://www.parkeryamaha.com/seadoopuller529035547.aspx)

this comes up quite often I am going pin it.

-tony


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 69nordic on December 20, 2010, 07:53:15 PM

I cut a hole in the center of a plate of sheet steel with a hole saw cut a circle around this hole so it looks kinda like a dough nut drilled 3 holes that match lower fan belt starter pulley bolts. Bolt it on with the 3 nuts and use a 3 jawed puller works very well took about an hour to make.
Kash


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 69nordic on December 20, 2010, 08:10:20 PM

After reading my post even I was confused. The piece I made looks like a thick giant washer it fits on the flywheel the crank shaft stlcks out the center the plate bolts to the three fly wheel studs. the nuts only thread on three quarters because you have to leave a gap to slip the jaws of the puller under.you need a good quality puller as the jaws are very thick on the cheap ones I hope this is clear.I bought two rotax pullers years ago I never could figure out how to use the twin cylinder one until I found out it needs the bolt on plate which I don't have and on a hazy day after to many wobbly pops I put the single cylinder puller away some where safe as I said I bought two of the same pullers and I only need one still can"t find It
Kash


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: sledrat on January 1, 2011, 09:00:29 AM

Hi i have a question about the flywheel puller links posted above
Will it fit all or most older Rotax twin motors or just a few?
And Seadoo motors too?

thanks


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: luckyketch on January 1, 2011, 03:15:58 PM

I have used it on Elan 250, TNT 640 and a TNT 440 twins. The Elan 250 was tight and I did a little grinding to get it to fit.

tony


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: cmbb on January 15, 2011, 04:41:00 AM

Gentlemen;

This one listed .http://www.parkeryamaha.com/seadoopuller529035547.aspx

Just checking to make sure this would work on a single cyl. Elan 1973-1978?
I think I read correctly that it does work, just double checking.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: moxymech1 on January 15, 2011, 07:21:39 AM

nope that is the puller for the twin, the single puller has the threads on the inside

moxy


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: hermit on January 15, 2011, 07:42:17 AM

the single cyl tool is ski-doo/sea-doo part number 420976235. Motion Pro makes one like it for less but don't know the number price quality etc. I have the one listed above works really great. A breeze to pop any single and Opposed Twin flywheel for ski-doo, maybe Sachs and Jlo.

Kind of cool that ski-doo used that style since the very early Rotax and still do on latest and greatest.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: cmbb on January 15, 2011, 09:15:58 AM

Thanks guys

Hermit; I think this may be it.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0321


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: moxymech1 on January 15, 2011, 10:22:47 AM

yep thats it


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on January 20, 2011, 01:27:31 PM

Thanks as well!

I have a 71 340 tnt one lunger and the male threads on flywheel are 38mm rt hand. Ebay sells these as well. I didn't invest yet on that one since I wasn't sure.

I made my own deal for the 335-340 for 71-by going to Fastenal and picking up some longer 6mm nuts (forget what they call them) and screwed 3 of them on pulley mountings...I then took used a Sears Dampner puller with 3 longer 6mm bolts and used it like a puller..(so the 3 long 6mm bolts would screw into the longer nuts) with a few taps of the hammer on the puller bolt, it popped off.
I used 3 jaw puller on my 71 640..I don't recommend.

One question--Is the puller for the 71 640 -the one with external threads on the puller that was shown in previous post? Thanks...Jeff


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: luckyketch on January 20, 2011, 06:26:24 PM

That is correct, however you also need the porkchop to go along with it.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on January 20, 2011, 07:36:24 PM

porkchop? ???


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: moxymech1 on January 21, 2011, 10:12:59 AM

i believe it is more like a frying pan

;D



moxy


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on January 21, 2011, 12:30:10 PM

OK! I was wondering how, w/o any male or female threads on the flywheel of a 399,640 how the puller would work...You bolt that pork chop frying pan around the 3 bolts that hold the starter cup-then screw in the puller to that pulling out the flywheel...

Is the pork chop avail with the puller?
seems Ski doo went to great lengths to make this one difficult to pull ie-with a combo of parts to make it work..vs the 340--just screw it on and pull it..


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: moxymech1 on January 21, 2011, 05:28:14 PM

When i bought my puller and frypan it was around 100$ from the brp dealer... :-[


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on January 21, 2011, 09:32:20 PM

I re read above quotes and now I get it fully :P..I will need to have these instead of always jury rigging everything with a little anger mixed in...always a good combo


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: elanjoe on January 22, 2011, 10:04:50 AM

i use a three arm puller , 3 ton lifetime warnty, its 29bucks at crappy tire, alittle more but gets the job done quicker and easier than the above method.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: hermit on January 22, 2011, 11:41:30 AM

You really shouldn't use any jaw puller on the flywheel. They can and will do damage to the advance mechanism or the magnets. Some ceramics. I have used a steering wheel style puller on a on a twin style flywheel effectively however still prefer the ease and safety of the correct style. Ther are many ways and many jerry rigs, but what you may save in time and money on the puller may cost you in broken parts. Also keep in mind many good dealers will allow you to bring an engine in and they will do it for you. Maybe free maybe 5.00, and if it's a one time deal may be the way to go.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 1970TNT on January 22, 2011, 03:03:26 PM

X2 ON THE THREE JAW PULLER ON THE MAG


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: skunked on January 23, 2011, 02:05:13 PM

[quote author=640guy link=board=1;threadid=16486;start=0#msg101198 date=1295558851]
Thanks as well!

I have a 71 340 tnt one lunger and the male threads on flywheel are 38mm rt hand. Ebay sells these as well. I didn't invest yet on that one since I wasn't sure.

I made my own deal for the 335-340 for 71-by going to Fastenal and picking up some longer 6mm nuts (forget what they call them) and screwed 3 of them on pulley mountings...I then took used a Sears Dampner puller with 3 longer 6mm bolts and used it like a puller..(so the 3 long 6mm bolts would screw into the longer nuts) with a few taps of the hammer on the puller bolt, it popped off.
I used 3 jaw puller on my 71 640..I don't recommend.

One question--Is the puller for the 71 640 -the one with external threads on the puller that was shown in previous post? Thanks...Jeff
[/quote]
They're called coupler nuts and it works. I couldn't find any metric coupler nuts in my neck of the woods, so I rethreaded one end metric and left the other end sae. It did the job. When you don't have the tool, invent one.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on February 3, 2011, 07:25:14 AM

To own the "right tools" One needs:

1. for 292-335-340 one cylinders---38mm internal female threaded puller ds650-motion pro-or 420-976-235 Ski Doo

2. for 304, 399, 440, 640,etc twins--Puller 529-035-547(external male threads)
and pan holder 420-876-081. The pan is bolted to flywheel then the puller screws into the pan.

Nothing like correct tools! ;D


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: oly_man on March 31, 2012, 06:05:22 AM

Boooo - Motion Pro doesn't sell to Canada. Anyone know of where I can buy one of these online and get it mailed to Canada?


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Phil on March 31, 2012, 06:51:24 AM

I just ordered the single cyl. Puller from BRP : 61$ taxes in.
If you buy in US, add shipping, canadian taxes, and if you are not so lucky, some brokerage fees (mainly if not ship through USPS) and if the tool is made in China or anywhere else than US or Mexico, duty fees....so at the end, you loose money !


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: moxymech1 on March 31, 2012, 07:57:30 AM

Maybe an American Board Member would reship for you?

???


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 1970TNT on March 31, 2012, 08:17:15 AM

HEY OLYMAN SENT ME YOUR $$ AND I WILL ORDER YA ONE YETI


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Phil on March 31, 2012, 08:30:42 AM

Best way to avoid taxes and all, mention "gift" as description for custom purpose (if you dont already know !)


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: oly_man on March 31, 2012, 01:43:27 PM

Thanks doo'ds. I actually just found this & ordered one (hope its ok):
www.whygostock.com/flywheel-puller-bombardier-ds650-m38x1-5-r-h-internal-thread-p420976235/ (http://www.whygostock.com/flywheel-puller-bombardier-ds650-m38x1-5-r-h-internal-thread-p420976235/)
They are also on Ebay, but the shipping is cheaper from their website.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: oly_man on March 31, 2012, 02:00:37 PM

So far the service is excellent - shipped within 5 minutes of ordering!


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: oly_man on April 18, 2012, 05:07:11 AM

Thought that I should add - I've rec'd the puller and it looks + works great. Came from the USA as well, so I think its a great alternative for us Canucks.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 1 lunger doo on January 5, 2013, 01:25:59 AM

can anyone tell me what what the thread/nut size is of where the puller screws on?


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: oly_man on January 5, 2013, 05:31:55 AM

M38 x 1.5 R.H. thread


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 1 lunger doo on January 5, 2013, 07:17:20 AM

thanks oly_man


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on February 13, 2013, 07:11:53 AM

I PURCHASED BOTH PULLERS HERE FOR A GREAT PRICE TOGETHER.
www.parkeryamaha.com
SeaDoo Puller 420976235 At Parker Yamaha Com

I couldn't get the link to transfer. Computer stupid. >:(


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: trwalker on October 25, 2013, 04:00:16 AM

What does the frying pan part actually do?Stop it from turning?


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on December 2, 2013, 06:42:56 AM

Yes. Used it again yesterday. Works beautifully!! :)


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: sledrat on December 2, 2013, 03:55:08 PM

HERE A RATSLED WAY OF POPPING THE MAG/FLY WHEELS OFF OLD SKIDOO MOTORS

http://youtu.be/sPqj5V-rDpg (http://youtu.be/sPqj5V-rDpg)


Enjoy..


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Mark Mesi on October 27, 2015, 08:12:12 AM

[quote author=J.Candy link=board=1;threadid=16486;start=20#msg128612 date=1382698816]
What does the frying pan part actually do?Stop it from turning?
[/quote]

I have the pattern that i used to make one, real easy, you will use it all the time, especially if you don't want to use rope down the cyclinder when tightening the flywheel bolt on a new rebuild.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Mark Mesi on October 27, 2015, 08:17:11 AM

[quote author=cmbb link=board=1;threadid=16486;start=0#msg100736 date=1295111758]
Thanks guys

Hermit; I think this may be it.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0321
[/quote]

So this will work on the 292, 299, 320, and 335 single Rotax bubble nose motors?


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Oldsledz on October 27, 2015, 08:32:43 AM

[quote author=RVcrazy link=board=1;threadid=16486;start=40#msg139903 date=1445959031]
[quote author=cmbb link=board=1;threadid=16486;start=0#msg100736 date=1295111758]
Thanks guys

Hermit; I think this may be it.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0321
[/quote]



So this will work on the 292, 299, 320, and 335 single Rotax bubble nose motors?
[/quote]

Yes it will.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Doo640ER on October 31, 2015, 06:39:35 AM

Here is how I got the flywheel off of a 640 Nordic Motor. Home made puller from scrap stuff lying around. Easy if ya have an oxy-acetylene torch and a welder available.











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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: Joe Olympique on October 31, 2015, 08:22:05 PM

Nice. Up in these parts that would be called Yankee engineering.


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 1970TNT on October 31, 2015, 09:26:47 PM

GIVE A MAN A TORCH AND WELDER AND HE CAN MAKE ANYTHING ;D GREAT HOME MADE PULLER 8) 8)


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: webmaster on November 1, 2015, 04:07:30 PM

Very Nice--GREAT PHOTOS!


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Title: Re:fly wheel puller
Post by: 640guy on November 9, 2015, 11:29:28 AM

Nice job :)



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