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Starting my elan rebuild
« on: March 19, 2017, 11:28:06 AM »
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Hello everyone,

I will be starting my elan rebuild in the near future. I'm excited to get it going. Will be using this forum for any advice and help I may need. Already have been reading through and picked up some great info from some true experts on here. My first question would be painting the tunnel, skies, and other various parts. Living in bush Alaska I don't have access to a sandblaster or powder coater. What is my best option from here? I was thinking lots of time with a wire wheel and sand paper then a paint from a spray can. What paint would hold up the best? Any advice would be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 03:36:50 AM »
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I used wire wheels and sand paper with fine results.

Before you get too crazy taking out every single ding and dent, ask  your self how you will use the machine. I spent hours sanding and bondo and strieghtening a wrinkled belly pan, then rode it as intended, a couple rocks later I have cracked, falling off bondo. I should have just gotten it straight as I could with hammers and laid the paint to her.

The chassis was a semi gloss black and pretty easy to match, I just use spray can paints, easy to touch up. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 01:20:00 AM »
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I once stripped everything but the tin on a Farmall H with paint remover and wire brush. Man I had a lot of time on my hands back then. No dust though.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 09:38:03 AM »
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Unless the area is rusty, there is nothing wrong with leaving some old paint on the steel, just scuff it with sand paper before laying more primer or paint to it.

One area that gets thin on these Elans is under the plastic tank. Any snow that comes in the vents melts and ends up in that pocket.  And of course under the seat.

I have had three sleds all "refugees" from out in the woods, where they sat until the seat vinyl rotted off, then the foam was just a giant sponge to hold moisture against the metal.

A long time back, someone posted a beater Elan that had a piece of sheet from the side of an old washing machine riveted under the seat. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2017, 01:05:08 PM »
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Definitely going to be a rider. Just want to clean it up and make it look nicer. Won't be going to crazy on details and perfection. Will have some welding to do on the chassis. Under the tank is fine, but it's rusted all the way through under the left foot rest and under the seat. What kind of spray paint did you use and how has it held up? Saw someone on another post used VHT epoxy spray paint and that seemed to turn out pretty good, that is what I'm thinking I'll use.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2017, 02:50:48 PM »
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I've used VHT (Very High Temp) engine paint on engines and it looks great and wears well.  For chassis, skis, and assorted parts I've always used John Deere Medium Gloss black aerosol.  By the way, what model year is your elan? And was it factory painted or powder coated?
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2017, 03:48:10 PM »
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It's a '74 and I'm guessing it's original factory paint.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2017, 05:15:22 PM »
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Joe, how does that John Deere paint hold up on the chassis and skis? Do you use a primer?
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2017, 05:52:46 PM »
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I prefer plasti-kote low gloss black  215 engine enamel. Perfect sheen, holds up to gas spills, chip resistant etc. You can use black primer or go right at it as long as the metal is prepped cleaned and tacked off.
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« Reply #9 on: April 7, 2017, 04:01:35 PM »
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Getting some much needed welding done on my chassis. Should have it done in another day or two. Will post some pictures when it's done. Need to order a couple things like a new gas tank and some other various little things. Kimpex won't ship to my location (alaska). Anyone know any way around this? Kimpex seems to be the only place where I can find what I need.

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« Reply #10 on: April 7, 2017, 05:05:41 PM »
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I AGREE WITH JOEOLY. I HAVE USED JOHN DEERE MED GLOSS ON ABOUT 7-8 SLEDS HOLDS UP GOOD OR USE RUSTOLEUM SEMI GLOSS. I USED RUSTOLEUM PRIMER FOR BOTH TYPES OF PAINT WITH NO PROBLEMS. ELAN GAS HERE YA GO http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kimpex-07-405-Fuel-Tank-Ski-Doo-Elan-250-Ref-571007500-571136900-Gas-Reservoir-/352020563925?hash=item51f60f87d5:g:hOoAAOSwCU1YrBPz&vxp=mtr I HAVE USED THIS GUY BEFORE FOR A TANK
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« Reply #11 on: April 7, 2017, 05:06:49 PM »
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I HAVE SOME PARTS SO IF YA NEED SOMETHING PM ME YETI
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« Reply #12 on: April 7, 2017, 08:11:23 PM »
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Thanks for response, but I've already tried that one too. That won't ship to me either.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 12:34:50 AM »
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Well got the welding repairs and most of the painting done over these past couple days. I guess I'll start with a couple pictures of how I got the sled

Cowling is in good shape, just a bit dirty...a couple small cracks where it bolts to the hinge is only damage. Seat has a tear in it and was water logged. Chassis is in pretty rough shape. Bad rust under seat and a spot next to the chain case where it was completely rusted through. Engine has good compression. Track and bogey wheels are surprisingly in good shape.









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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 12:45:39 AM »
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Here is the progress so far.





Some small rust holes still on the foot board area by the chain case. And some dents under the gas tank that didn't want to straighten out. But good enough for my liking. She'll definitely be a rider. Not trying to win any awards from it... Will keep you guys posted on how things go from here.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2017, 04:55:56 AM »
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Great job so far, looking good!
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2017, 07:47:35 AM »
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Looks like a pretty good start to me 
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2017, 09:18:16 AM »
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A bit of a hold up right now. Trying to disassemble the motor to rebuild with new gasket kit and can't seem to get one of the fan housing screws out. I managed to strip it pretty good in the process too. Hopefully I'll be able to get her out without having to cut it off. Any ideas on how to go about it from here? I was thinking if I grind a notch in it i may have a chance at trying to extract it without damaging the screw to much. Otherwise I could maybe weld a nut on top of the head and try getting it out with a socket. Last resort is grind the head off and loose the screw.



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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2017, 10:57:44 AM »
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They can be a real pain sometimes. I take a torch with a small brazing tip and put a little heat on it and work at it they come out for the most part but they can be stubborn 
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2017, 03:57:33 PM »
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I think there is enough of the head there to make this work ... deepen the slot with a narrow grinding wheel on a dremel tool ... then use an impact screwdriver tool. A couple of wacks should get it started.
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