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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2017, 07:41:03 PM »
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That looks like the square top/shoulder type screw ?? You should be able to get a hold of it with vice grip ?? Then heat the part of shroud where screw screws into, aluminum expands much faster than steel, it usually don`t take much heat.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2017, 09:10:43 PM »
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Cool. Thanks for the advice guys. Think I'll try and grind the slot a bit more and put some heat on it. I have a buddy that has an impact screwdriver set so I'll try that too. Got a couple tubes of grease in the mail, should arrive this week. When I get them I can start putting things back together. Going to clean out bogies and re grease them and cross shafts. Got everything except the cowling painted. Here she is so far...



The wiring is in pretty rough shape. Is there anywhere I can get a complete wiring harness for a 250E? Or should I buy the wire and re build it?

Will update in a couple days.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2017, 03:37:37 AM »
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Goose may have a harness or build you one. He might be able to get the electrical ends and you can build it yourself.

ron.thomsen@gmail.com

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2017, 02:56:00 PM »
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Bogie tires are all in good shape. Not worn down or dry rotted. But the bearings will all need to be replaced. They're in rough shape. Sure glad I took them apart to check haha. Going to clean up the flanges and reuse them.






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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2017, 12:24:48 AM »
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Got the flanges cleaned up to my liking. Reusing all flanges and hardware to save a little money.


Got the new bearings in and started to assemble the bogies. Nice to be putting things back together.


I'm having some difficulty getting my recoil pawl back together. Can't seem to get that little cover on correctly. Of course I didn't take any pictures of it before I took it apart... Anyone happen to have a picture of how it goes on or could maybe describe how it goes? Here is what I'm talking about.


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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2017, 04:19:25 AM »
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Would this help?

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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2017, 08:48:30 AM »
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Yes. Thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2017, 10:11:15 AM »
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Another question, that shafts the bogie bearings go on, that tube is hollow all the way through to the other bearing. Does that whole tube need to be filled with grease? How do you guys grease your bearings?
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« Reply #28 on: June 7, 2017, 05:20:51 PM »
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Quote from: AKnick on May 12, 2017, 10:11:15 AM   

Another question, that shafts the bogie bearings go on, that tube is hollow all the way through to the other bearing. Does that whole tube need to be filled with grease? How do you guys grease your bearings?


There should be some beer cap shaped plugs at both ends of the shaft that collects the grease as you squeeze it through the grease nipple.. One of mine didn't have one so I went to Canadian Tire plumbing section and found a screw on pipe end that was the same diameter as the shaft. A couple hammer hits and it seated perfectly in there.
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2017, 09:51:59 PM »
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Do you know where I would be able to get some of those caps from? I'm sure they're probably hard to find. Mine don't have any of them.
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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2017, 11:53:53 AM »
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I did some work for you.....the part number is 502 0011 00
I found some on this website for 50 cents each

http://burtgoodnoughsmarina.ipage.com/store/product982.html

I have never bought anything from this place before so use at your own risk.

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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2017, 07:45:13 PM »
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Sweet! Thanks Dan.

Any one know what kind of bearings I need for the crank? I called a bearing store today and was told normal ball bearings won't work cause they'll get to hot and cease...
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2017, 01:38:23 PM »
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Here is your parts manual......

http://www.vintagesnow.com/Ski-Doo_files/1973%20-%201974%20Ski-Doo%20Parts%20Manual.pdf

On page 205 it shows the bearing you are looking for

"Deep Groove Ball Bearing 6305"  Part Number 420932820

When I type that part number into google the only real hit I got was this guy on ebay.  Hopefully he will ship to you.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Ski-Doo-Crankshaft-Bearing-20mm-6305C-420-9328-20-/371926644424?hash=item56988e36c8:g:GB4AAOSw3ZRY-iUJ&vxp=mtr

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« Reply #33 on: December 1, 2017, 10:51:35 AM »
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Thanks again Dan! I called up a bearing shop and got a couple of them ordered.

Engine is completely torn down and cleaned up. I have the crank in the freezer now to ease with the new bearing instal. I have some pictures and will try and upload them for you guys to view, haven’t uploaded any other than photobucket so I’ll have to figure out how to do it through google photos I suppose.
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« Reply #34 on: December 2, 2017, 09:42:03 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: December 2, 2017, 09:53:41 AM »
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Finally figured out how to post with google photos! Here is what the motor looked like during disassembly.
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« Reply #36 on: December 2, 2017, 09:58:38 AM »
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Here it is all cleaned up and with the new crank bearings on.



And here we are going back together with it. This is my first engine rebuild so there has been a bit of a learning curve. Just hope she fires up and runs when the time comes haha.
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« Reply #37 on: December 6, 2017, 10:21:37 PM »
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Couple questions for you guys...

Does the air box that attaches to the carb supposed to have an air filter in it?

What oil should I run in the chain case? Any old gear oil?

My bogie set that came on this sled are three sets of three bogies. Am I supposed to just have one set of three and the back two have four? Or will the three sets of three wheels be suffice?
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2017, 07:10:36 AM »
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Nice job on the engine sir.  Looks awesome.

Airbox has no filter.  Problem with filters is they can ice up and cause leaning out.
Regular 80w90 is just fine in the case.  It's all they used for many many years, all I use and never had issues.  Some use synthetic but I don't see the benefit.
My personal preference on bogies is three sets of four per truck from any old Olympic only because I'm not the smallest guy and the more support the better.  The lighter elan bogies had less springs, so it's really up to you.  Try it with what you have and see how you like it.  Bogies are easy to swap.
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